Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
He "lost" because Naruto is telling us that (traditional) ninjas aren't the way to go. Naruto himself sucks as a ninja.
No, he lost, irreversibly, when he couldn't find the third path when he had to choose from murdering his own people, save one, or dying with all of them. While Naruto is a hopeless idealist, what happened in Konoha was still a giant tragedy and a shining example of why Naruto's message is better than Danzo's. You can't save your people by murdering a big chunk of them. Such thinking is a paradox.