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    Lolis are fine, as long as they aren't sexualized.
    One sided incest is fine, but fulfilled one is... weird.
    Fanservice - depends on how absurd it is, and its focus - like Ryll said there is very thin line between shit and "so bad that is good".
    When it comes to fetishes - if it is all in moderation ,or there is focus on one or two its fine... but not when they are added just to get more ppl to buy their stuff.

    i also HATE censoring that is just there so ppl will buy blurays - it is fine if you are watching BD and are few seasons behind but it is still annoying.

    now i'm also repulsed by classic Rie Style tsundere. There were too many of them, now if i hear voice remotely similar in tone i cringe irl.

    I don't get why people dislike the noblewoman's laugh - it can be overused.. but when its in 'moderation' (Naga @ Slayers) it is great. Heck - it can be even used as weapon.

    I also slowly get put off by retarded misunderstandings - but it is because it was, and still is, overused trope. Some series (Nisekoi manga for example) break this trope sometimes and it is... refreshing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelbair View Post
    Lolis are fine, as long as they aren't sexualized.
    There's no such thing.

    Just because there's a young girl in an anime, doesn't automatically make that character a loli. Lolis are, by definition, characters designed to appeal to lolicons. It's the sexualization of a young girl that makes her character a loli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Just because there's a young girl in an anime, doesn't automatically make that character a loli. Lolis are, by definition, characters designed to appeal to lolicons. It's the sexualization of a young girl that makes her character a loli.
    I used to think like that, but then I took too many hits from the reality. A person with no lolicon mentality would enjoy watching kids being kids in anime (assuming the person doesn't consider young characters annoying), never seeing anything more than that in it, but for lolicons they are all sexualised by default. It's all in the eye of the beholder, regardless of what the story author / director wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    but for lolicons they are all sexualised by default. It's all in the eye of the beholder, regardless of what the story author / director wanted.
    I agree with that. But whether the character is a loli or not is based on author's intention. Lolicons will sexualize a young girl character whether it's a loli or not.

    The sexualization doesn't even have to be overt. The character basically just has to exist purely to provide service to Lolicons. I think a character like Wendy in Fairy Tail is an example of this. I don't think that character would exist in that form if Mashima wasn't trying to check off boxes on a list of target audiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    The sexualization doesn't even have to be overt. The character basically just has to exist purely to provide service to Lolicons. I think a character like Wendy in Fairy Tail is an example of this. I don't think that character would exist in that form if Mashima wasn't trying to check off boxes on a list of target audiences.
    You are selling her short. Mashima is hardly a good writer, but I never felt Wendy was there just to placate lolicons. In my non-lolicon eyes I can't view her as sexy standing next to the likes of Juvia, but I like Wendy as a character because Mashima did manage to give her some childish characteristics. I find it cute how she's just a little girl whereas all the other dragon slayers are gruffy men, yet she's still doing her best in all the fights she's continuously facing as a main character. Furthermore, even on a more basic level I can't help but pity her situation where she has no friends of the same age around but is always in the company of adults (even if some of those adults are almost like kids anyway, like Natsu and Gray). Nah, Fairy Tail wouldn't anymore be Fairy Tail without her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    You are selling her short. Mashima is hardly a good writer, but I never felt Wendy was there just to placate lolicons.
    I'm not saying she's a completely one-dimensional character. You can add a character to appeal to lolicons but actually give said character depth.

    Wendy was created to meet a loli quota in the same way Chopper was created to meet a mascot quota in One Piece, but both characters are much more developed than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Wendy was created to meet a loli quota in the same way Chopper was created to meet a mascot quota in One Piece, but both characters are much more developed than that.
    Unless you have read Mashima say that in an interview, I won't believe it. I'm 100% sure Mashima has enjoyed drawing/writing Wendy just as well as any of the central characters, she has served the plot (as far as you can talk about a plot in FT) in her own unique way, plus there are lots of non-lolicon readers/watchers who enjoy her character's escapades in a nonsexual way. You sound like there would be something strange about a kid being there, and so Mashima would have needed some external reason (serving lolicons) to place one in the story. A society can't exist too long without children; there's nothing strange about them.

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