Dropping a student who he himself recognized as creative enough to create perfect harmony by altering his recipe is utterly ridiculous. Bad writing.
Dropping a student who he himself recognized as creative enough to create perfect harmony by altering his recipe is utterly ridiculous. Bad writing.
Peace.
It's a school that takes pride in allowing only 10% of the students to graduate. What else did you expect?
The 2 were failed on the rule that was explained BEFORE the exam.
As I said earlier, he can fail her for not following the recipe to the letter. But he can recognize her efforts and propose a positive way out because she obviously shows promise. And it's not a favor here. But Shinomiya has to accept the fact his test was not perfect, and he can not tolerate that on an egoistical level. Not many people can come close to something acceptable on their first try at this recipe even with perfect ingredients, but she managed to with less than perfect cauliflowers. He should acknowledge that somehow. That's my gripe.
PS: And he really is a douche, because he knew from the start he would fail her and had her finish the dish and even tasted it... instead of failing her early.
Last edited by David75; Sun, 06-07-2015 at 04:28 AM.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
The man is just an arrogant egotistical chef with zero flexibility. The dude shouldn't be a judge in this.
That's what I'm wondering about. Is being an elite chef so easy in their world that deluded asshats like him can become so popular?
Peace.
He did mention that her recipe was not bad, implying it was as good as or better than his original. I thought it was nice of him to acknowledge that before firing her.Originally Posted by David75
I'm not even sure if you're joking. Acknowledging it AND firing her is what makes him an asshole. If he had fired her out of a subconscious reason, he'd be less disgusting.
Peace.
She failed the assignment. David said it already that it's a very simple reason for firing her. They were supposed to follow the recipe, she didn't. There were dropped students who did follow the recipe as well as they could but Shinomiya thought the result wasn't good enough. It would be bullshit if Megumi altered the recipe yet still passed. That would make him an ever worse examiner, who first tells the students they must follow the recipe, but then would let somebody pass after she knowingly altered it.
Sure, failing people who can actually come up with dishes equal to his (in his own words) on the fly despite disadvantageous circumstances is what makes a good examiner. But NO! She altered a recipe! In a good way but who cares! There's no way she deserves a spot in this cooking school!
Talk about putting the cart before the horse...
Peace.
I wouldn't say adding acidity makes her recipe better. It comes down to assessing the task vs assessing the person. In a school, you're really supposed to assess the task. However, schools also need to set clear marking criteria so students know exactly what is expected of them. It doesn't happen here, which is the source of angst and confusion.
Souma's past creations are based on the idea that "I have to serve the customer something". Shinomiya runs his place thinking "You give the customer exactly what is prescribed. Nothing different." As perfectly put by Ryll, the problem was his dooming a number of students by default regardless of skill.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
He didn't doom anyone regardless of skill. Like I said perfectly before, he just expanded selecting the ingredients to be a part of the necessary skill set. He even dropped a hint by telling the students they should consider each other enemies. Megumi's skills were lacking because she didn't go for the most sensitive vegetables first. Lacking skills = fired. Just like the two dudes were kicked out because their rule abiding skills were apparently lacking and they shared info.
If everybody got to the cauliflowers first, then what? It's the biggest, most aggressive person getting the best pick (assuming they know how to pick). They didn't show any vegetable stealing or sabotaging in this episode, but that could have easily happened too. That's the type of thing that's happening here.
Like Ryll said, if only 8 good cauliflowers were available to the Elite 10, 2 will fail - either the two slowest, or two most gentle.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
No joke there; it is as I said. He has an inflexible standard that she didn't meet, so he fired her. But he expressed an admiration for what she did and even gave her the courtesy of answering her question of "Why?". I'm not saying anything about how good or bad his character overall is, but that I appreciate that he separated his personal feelings from his cooking standards in this regard.
Separated his personal feelings? The decision was BASED on his personal feelings. Sure he explained what she did in a calm manner but that was it. It was his original recipe. Something he obviously takes a lot of pride in. Then this kid comes along that makes a good one with bad ingredients by altering the recipe. His recipe.
That's how I see it anyway.
The "follow the recipe to the letter" was not a rule displayed before the exam. The way he refered to that even let us think he stated that rule as a convenience to fire Megumi.
And as I said, he can fail her for that test and then offer her a way to save her neck to show respect for her hard work since she got a more than satisfying result. Or he should have failed her early. Failing her that late with no options is just pure sadism he savoured the moment he saw her using a less than perfect cauliflower.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
I think if his pride were truly hurt and his judgment impaired by that fact, he wouldn't have given her either the positive critique of her dish or the (explanation of the) infraction that cost her the evaluation. It seems very dispassionate to me. He didn't even uncross his legs, if I recall correctly.
I think I see where you're coming from, but I disagree on the notion that, given how much authority he has over the students, and how little (none) accountability he has for their passing or failing, everything he has done has been essentially a courtesy. He even said this was his simplest recipe. This is pure conjecture, but I wonder if he would have minded if Megumi left the exam area to get a decent produce?
I'm not blaming her and her situation is unfortunate, but I personally don't see his methods as purely evil, is what I'm trying to say. Even if he accepts the shokugeki on her behalf, that is still more than he would be obliged to, as he could expel Yukihira without it based solely on his "authority" (assuming he wagers his own expulsion), so if he does participate, he has nothing to gain if the only tangible net change is reversing a decision to fail a student he complimented anyway.
His attitude does rub one the wrong way, though.
Didn't he threaten to expel a student who passed (Souma) because he disagreed with him?
Not evil at all.
Peace.
He merely threatened, but nothing stopped him from actually doing so except himself. It could be argued (but I won't) that he threatened him for openly disrespecting his station as a former alumni without having proved himself yet by graduating.
I expect that, in his own mind, he is upping the standard of foodcrafters Tooksuki (sp?) produces by his machiavellian standards. The ending of the previous episode also suggests that there may be more to this character than has been shown so far.
That being said, I understand my view is in the great minority and I cannot offer any solid proof that the examiner is not actually evil beyond the obsticle he poses to the students, so there's that. Either way this turns out, its always good fun to discuss a decisive character like this!
HS - Episode 11
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Shinomiya (with "full discression") gets stalemated by Hinako! God bless Hinako. Megumi too. Everybody loves Megumi.
Erina's a bitch, but she's hot. I'll give her that.
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Sat, 06-13-2015 at 02:55 AM.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Megumi is hotter. Also come on, Soma, the way he´s talking to her is totally flirtatious behavior. Screw Erina and keep the cuter girl!
As for the episode, I find it dumb. Unless they´re planning on having Megumi as a cooking prodigy of sorts, it´d be dumb if she won this Shoukugeki, only to return to mediocrity afterwards. Winning against an alumni should be a big deal after all.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
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