If they unfuze during battle you'd have entered 11 people into the tournament. Zen Ou would not be happy.Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
I suppose you could fuse 10 people into 5..
If they unfuze during battle you'd have entered 11 people into the tournament. Zen Ou would not be happy.
I suppose you could fuse 10 people into 5..
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
even if the fusion dance worked, it would be problematic to use it in the tournament because the winning requirement is the universe with the MOST fighters... using the fusion will make 2 fighters into 1...
Videl all the way man.
If I was the god of universe 4, I'd get Freiza to throw and promise him I'd resurrect him in Universe 4 if he does. For the Emperor of Evil, there's no better way to get out of hell with a "Fuck You" while you're at it.
The preview makes it sound like they'll just send trashy assassins though.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
So did Caulifla turn SSJ2 for a moment there?
Ya she did. Super Saiyan one does not have the White Lightning and you can tell she powered up... it as clear as a sunny day... Her hair even changed. She better not go SSJ3 otherwise her crotch will have some massive growth peeping out from the top of her joggers. Which could be hot.
Now that I got my wish for Frieza to be in the Tournament, I now want Goku to revisit Super Saiyan God and make that a transformation instead of SSB, we can have SSG again. With all his training since Hit, SSG should be more Godly than Beerus and Whis combined I think.
i was more with the impression that kale got a new kind of SSJ... one that comes from despair or sadness instead of rage... her ki was green instead of the usual yellow... then again that goes with brolly's green hair... but at the same time we cant said that brolly was cannon can we?Ya she did. Super Saiyan one does not have the White Lightning and you can tell she powered up... it as clear as a sunny day... Her hair even changed. She better not go SSJ3 otherwise her crotch will have some massive growth peeping out from the top of her joggers. Which could be hot.
Now that I got my wish for Frieza to be in the Tournament, I now want Goku to revisit Super Saiyan God and make that a transformation instead of SSB, we can have SSG again. With all his training since Hit, SSG should be more Godly than Beerus and Whis combined I think.
They are making it seem like in order to go legendary you need to feel despair or humility?
Maybe Goku will pick up on this somehow..
No but a lot of people are hoping Brolly gets a mention so then they can "OMGOOSE BROLLY BE CANON NOW. SUCK IT LOSERS I WIN TEH INTERWEBZ" cause this is a debate that's been going on for 20 years at least. :/
I still hope SSJG becomes a thing again. Or at least try and combine the Ki control to SSJ2 or 3 mode. SSJB is basically Ki control, that was established during the hit arc. I see some advancement in those areas. Why not add that Ki control to SSJG mode?
That's what the internet has been saying. Personally, I've never been able to tell the difference between 1 and 2 unless I was looking at them side by side.
SSJ God (red aura) is stronger than blue? First time I hear that. I thought it was before blue in line. (SSJ -> SSJ2 -> SSJ3 -> SSJGod -> SSJBlue)
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
It's not. Because SSJ Blue is Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan combined.
Now, logically, that means you should be able to go Blue 2 and Blue 3 by combining SSJ2 and 3 with SSJG.
My problem with this is that they do not go Super Saiyan to go SSB. They go from Normal form to SSB. In order to reach SSB they had to train their normal form without SSJ. Either this is a very serious overlooked retcon/continuity error or Toriyama needs to come up with some other reason to fix this mess. If I can see the error here, most other probably are as well, I mean those in Japan who matter.
As far as I can understand SSB and SSJG, SSJG should be infinitely better over SSB. That's just from the information in the anime and manga. So either the studio or Toriyama forgot their reasoning behind SSB and are now trying to change it mid story, which makes zero sense even in the long run.
THIS is a fact and has been established that SSB is only Ki control, nothing more. SSJG was almost on Par with Beerus. SSB was puss factor mode in the beginning. Training will make SSB strong, they are overlooking many factors by neglecting SSJG, which after all that normal mode training and Ki control training, should put SSJG beyond Beerus and whis at this point in the story.
what error are you even talking about?
we now talk about SSB, but before the easier name goku and vegeta had trouble coming with a normal name that would be easy for goku to say... so what we have so far was:
Normal Saiyan<Super Saiyan<Super Saiyan 2< Super Saiyan 3<Super Saiyan God< Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (blue)< Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Kaio Ken
they never said that blue was weaker than red... they even said that to become blue you need to master red first and apply the same training to super saiyan... but because going up the numbers of super saiyan means getting less ki control and using saiyan god means controlling as much ki as possible then it creates this conflict where they have hard time getting more power ups...
by the way this is why kaioken is back also, because kaio ken meant controlling ki then it was incompatible with the normal super saiyan but now that they can go super saiyan while controlling ki then goku can combine kaio ken with super saiyan...
I understand all that. My point is, their Ki control is done in their base form and their entire training is done in base form for SSB. NO where during their training with whis did they use SSJ to try and master KI control. I think some of you might be trying to connect something that is not even there. That is why I said there is now a continuity error concerning the SSJG and SSB. Something that is either overlooked or that Toei or Toryiama will be addressing in the future as to why SSJ is never even mentioned when they trained with whis on Ki control to become SSB. They don't have to go through SSJ to become SSB, like they have to go SSJ to become SJ2 or SSJ3. Another error that I think some in the DBS community might be trying to connect to SSJ so it can make sense to them even though SSJ was never mentioned as to needing to go SSB. From the previous episodes I watched is the proper translation "It's like SSJGOD and SSSJ combined together to become SSB" That does not mean they are connected in anyway shape or form. That is more of a description than any actual training.
They are comparing SSB to needing both SSJ and SSJG to be COMPARABLE to SSB in terms of power. I honestly don't see it saying that SSB is the power up form of SSJ and SSJG together to be SSB. That is a description to how strong SSB is. I think some in the community are confusing that with "OHHH SSJ and SSJG = SSB" when Goku and Vegeta don't even go SSJ to go SSB like they do to reach SSJ3. They completely skip that step.
Pretty sure SSJG should be infinitely stronger now due to their base form training and their Ki control mastery. That's my view on it with all the information available. if I am wrong, Toei/Toriyama need to address these errors.
The manga explains that Blue is stronger than Red when Vegeta uses Red to fight Goku Black, however it uses more stamina.
Ssj2 has Blue thunder, thats how you set them apart.
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You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
In the manga it is explained that Red is faster and uses less stamina but does not have that much power when compared to Blue.
Then again in the manga it is also said that turning Blue on and off over and over reduces it's power by 10X each time you do it. Something Vegeta overcame while Goku found a different path to make Blue even stronger.
Blue is stronger since blue is a red that goes super.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
In the manga Goku changes Blue a little to become a lot stronger by holding all of the Ki inside of him. No more Blue aura and all that. It's all focused inside of him.
Have you guys seen MasakoX's video about the colors of SSJ? So far it seem to match. Especially from what we have seen happen to Kale.
From what I recall....Blue is combined with SSJ AND better Ki Control.
Anyway, seems like the anime won't use SSG again since it hasn't even been shown afterward the movie did. And it being on par with Beerus? I'd say no. Far from it.
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