Dragon Ball Super

[DarthEnderX]

Instead of continuing to post about the differences between the anime and the manga in this thread,
I've decided to make a Dragon Ball Super thread in the manga forum.

I understand all that. My point is, their Ki control is done in their base form and their entire training is done in base form for SSB. NO where during their training with whis did they use SSJ to try and master KI control.

To be fair, I don't think you can accurately say WHAT their training entails, because you don't get to see very much of it. They were training with Whis for months and the anime only shows a couple of scenes of it.

They don't even show the first time Goku or Vegeta discover SSJ Blue. It's revealed during the Freeza fight after they'd already unlocked it. So you can't say for sure WHAT kind of training they were doing when they actually unlocked Blue for the first time.

They are comparing SSB to needing both SSJ and SSJG to be COMPARABLE to SSB in terms of power. I honestly don't see it saying that SSB is the power up form of SSJ and SSJG together to be SSB. That is a description to how strong SSB is. I think some in the community are confusing that with "OHHH SSJ and SSJG = SSB" when Goku and Vegeta don't even go SSJ to go SSB like they do to reach SSJ3. They completely skip that step.

Pretty sure SSJG should be infinitely stronger now due to their base form training and their Ki control mastery. That's my view on it with all the information available. if I am wrong, Toei/Toriyama need to address these errors.

You are the first person on the internet I've encountered that didn't think SSJ Blue was just activating SSJ and SSJ God at the same time.

The characters say it. The wikis say it. You're the only person I've seen who thinks it's just a metaphor used to describe the comparable power levels involved.