Is that your criteria? What about Goku's body mass and physical strength, is that not physical? How can he lower that so that it matches satan's? So you actually believe goku can somehow make himself weaker than farmer with shotgun? Ok
Is that your criteria? What about Goku's body mass and physical strength, is that not physical? How can he lower that so that it matches satan's? So you actually believe goku can somehow make himself weaker than farmer with shotgun? Ok
Last edited by UChessmaster; Thu, 11-17-2016 at 04:01 PM.
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There's no indication that he would need to. None of the descriptions of the requirements for the Fusion Dance mention those things.Originally Posted by UChessmaster
And even if it was, have you never seen Trunks or Master Roshi bulk up their bodies instantly? Obviously it's possible to do with physical mass what you can do with ki.
Up not down.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
If they can't go down, how to they go back to normal after getting big?
Vegeta's Saiyan Pride wouldn't allow him to wish for immortality and then fuse with Goku? Even though he spent two entire arcs trying to wish for immortality and he's fused with Goku twice now?
Granted, he hates fusing because he hates relying on anyone's power than his own, but he hates losing more.
Up not down below the base*
Retcon? character progression? plot hole? If he wants immortality so much he had like over 9000 chances to do so (didn`t they have the dragon balls as a bingo prize or whatever in battle of the gods?), he clearly doesn`t cares about it anymore.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
dude seriously you are missmatching a whole bunch of things. so ill just ask a question to be sure we are on the same page...
when we talk about "base power" we are talking about the number that will appear in a scouter if someone will scan them? if so, then the scouters scan for ki levels which we are trying to say they can manage to power up/down at will. having a big physical mass makes no different on your ki level.
just for example yamcha is really fit, he has big muscle and physical strength, but in reality he has low ki levels compared to the rest of the Z fighters and will die to about absolutely everything right?
now powering down your ki levels to that of satan's doesnt mean you are as weak as satan because in a fight even if for some stupid reason you decide to lower your ki the moment you start fighting and the adrenaline starts pumping you will return to your base level if not abit more because of the adrenaline...
AGAIN powering down your ki is not a technique for fighting but for sneaking/stealth/go on the run/making the fusion dance...
even if you are unwilling to accept this, when the last tournament saga ended goku was exhausted, his ki points shutted down AND was weaker than his normal form and that is a fact
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