Overlord

[shinta|hikari]

What? How do you portrait , as you say, "absolute power" without killing hundreds of thousands of soldiers?

By killing, say, a few hundred of them using the twins like they did with the Empire? Pretty sure the emperor realized Ainz's power with that stunt. In fact, why didn't they just do that with the kingdom too? Actually, what's the point of spreading his name if he can just fly to the next country again and drop a dragon on them too?

Suddenly declaring independence which results in a war is not a passive or defensive action. They were the ones demanding stuff from the Kingdom, not the other way around.

Massacring hundreds of thousands of people is not just in their world either. That said, it doesn't matter if it's just or not, because Ainz has ABSOLUTE POWER.

Whatever, I quit.

[Ryllharu]

Yeah, I just can't anymore. It is a chore to even watch these week to week. This season is boring, the animation is garbage, and the plot this entire season is, "Nazarick is evil."

Okay...we got that from last season. What has this been other than a waste of time?

Dropped. The season in general has been quite bad. I will only barely finish four shows (and I'm not including Overlord).

[KrayZ33]

Just one more episode btw.

I doubt we'll see a Season 4 before 2020 or something (if at all), so Anime is pretty dead anyway.

Overall not enough Albedo. I too believe the animation is so bad, that its pretty much unenjoyable.
There is no point in massive battles and giant monsters when you can't make them look good.

[MFauli]

Lol @ this debate. Guys, what's it matter? It's been established that Ainz is a generric evil villain, no part of him is human anymore. How he might rule the kingdoms? Whatever, he'll kill anyone anyway of he so wills it. Ainz is currently playing in god-cheat mode. That's boring.

Honestly, no season 4 needed. The only way I'd continue watching is if another player is introduced, one who fights for good/human. Or lots of Albedo sex(y) scenes. That'd be okay, too.

[Buffalobiian]

The only way I'd continue watching is if another player is introduced, one who fights for good/human.

Ainz hasn't fought the strongest folks in the Slaine Theocracy yet, who look to be the only guys capable of standing up to him in this human world ("standing up" is relative). They were the ones who managed to control Shaltear.

[shinta|hikari]

They controlled Shalltear because of an item right? You don't have to be strong yourself to use items.

[QUOTE=MFauli]Lol @ this debate. Guys, what's it matter? It's been established that Ainz is a generric evil villain, no part of him is human anymore. How he might rule the kingdoms? Whatever, he'll kill anyone anyway of he so wills it. Ainz is currently playing in god-cheat mode. That's boring.[/QUOTE]

This was exactly what I was saying, except he isn't playing very well.

[KrayZ33]

The Dragon did also manage to combat Shalltear quite well, though it was only hinted in a flashback.

[Buffalobiian]

They controlled Shalltear because of an item right? You don't have to be strong yourself to use items.

Effective strength as in items + user.

[shinta|hikari]

But that item was consumable, so their effective strength dropped a significant amount after that. If they had more of those, they'd be using it by now.

[Buffalobiian]

But that item was consumable, so their effective strength dropped a significant amount after that. If they had more of those, they'd be using it by now.

I wasn't aware of it being an item. I just know that 2 from Slain Theocracy died, while Dragon was wounded during that encounter.

EDIT: That above line was based on Overlord II Episode 01. Looking back at Movie2, which summed up the latter part of Season 1 however, it suggested that a dragon-lady with unsagging boobs shot a dragon spell at Shaltear instead. I don't know which is accurate.

Ains mentions that using a One of Twenty world item will destroy it, but didn't say that the one controlling Shaltear is one of the twenty single use ones.

[MFauli]

Well, it's over.

Is a s4 coming?

[shinta|hikari]

Wow, that was pointless.

So much meaningless fluff.

Please no more S4. Use that money for something else.

[KrayZ33]

judging by the animation quality, I doubt they used money at all

[Buffalobiian]

I quite like Overlord, but they're doing such a shit job at making it interesting.

The whole PVP talk during the dual felt nerdy in a very bad way.

[shinta|hikari]

I don't understand what Ainz wanted to achieve with that duel. If he wanted to respect the dood, he would've at least let him fight a little instead of insta-killing him like that. If he didn't care, he should've just ignored the duel and killed them all.

You can argue Ainz used his full power out of respect, but that doesn't hold water because of the vast power difference. You don't "respect" a dumb puppy trying to pick a fight with you and then stomp its head into the ground to kill it. In fact, Ainz never needed to kill him. He could've just used some paralysis or sleep spell and be done with it.

Also, the conclusion those 2 muscleheads arrived at was insane. They thought warrior dood wanted to duel Ainz to show them Ainz's power so that they can find countermeasures? Really? Aren't the rampaging black monsters enough to explain that they don't and never will stand a chance? Isn't it better to find a way to survive under the demon god's rule, especially because said god appears merciful and reasonable throughout that farce of a fight?

[Kraco]

I don't understand what Ainz wanted to achieve with that duel. If he wanted to respect the dood, he would've at least let him fight a little instead of insta-killing him like that. If he didn't care, he should've just ignored the duel and killed them all.

It was a form of respect to use real power against someone called the strongest warrior of the kingdom. If he had allowed Gazef to "fight a little", it would have been toying with him. Other than that, this way he could end it cleanly, without Gazef's body and equipment suffering any damage.

Also, the conclusion those 2 muscleheads arrived at was insane. They thought warrior dood wanted to duel Ainz to show them Ainz's power so that they can find countermeasures? Really? Aren't the rampaging black monsters enough to explain that they don't and never will stand a chance? Isn't it better to find a way to survive under the demon god's rule, especially because said god appears merciful and reasonable throughout that farce of a fight?

It was better than admitting Gazef died for nothing and despairing.

The warrior dood should've just asked Ainz to stop pursuing the human army in exchange for his service. Then Momon wouldn't even need to do the fake turncoat thing because warrior dood can do it in his stead.

He was the kind of man who wouldn't serve under another until relieved by his first lord. In the first place, if he had betrayed the king and the kingdom, how could have Ainz really trusted him? He would have been a known traitor.

[DarthEnderX]

Also, the conclusion those 2 muscleheads arrived at was insane. They thought warrior dood wanted to duel Ainz to show them Ainz's power so that they can find countermeasures? Really? Aren't the rampaging black monsters enough to explain that they don't and never will stand a chance? Isn't it better to find a way to survive under the demon god's rule, especially because said god appears merciful and reasonable throughout that farce of a fight?

Sometimes I wonder why you even watch anime.

Like, if it was up to you, every shonen series would end after the first arc. "Well, the badguy is clearly too powerful. Better just give up."

They're attitude is fairly typical of "Never give up no matter what!" "I'll get stronger and defeat you." found all over the genre.

Unfortunately for them, this series is a subversion and Ainz is the protagonist. But they don't know that. So they're still never going to give up.

Like seriously, you're complaining about shit being boring, but you're also saying that it should be even MORE boring than it is because that's what would "make sense".

Ainz is heartless against enemies, not his people. If they officially become his people, he'll be as nice as any ruler in their world

Bullshit. He's made it clear that he only considers monsters to be "his people". He's repeatedly stated that he doesn't care if all the humans in the village he controls die, with the exception of the handful that are needed for his potion project.

[KrayZ33]

Bullshit. He's made it clear that he only considers monsters to be "his people". He's repeatedly stated that he doesn't care if all the humans in the village he controls die, with the exception of the handful that are needed for his potion project.

They are "his" people now. That village was not "his" until now.

That being said. He doesn't care about his monsters either.
All of them except a few are expendable.

[MFauli]

Also, the conclusion those 2 muscleheads arrived at was insane. They thought warrior dood wanted to duel Ainz to show them Ainz's power so that they can find countermeasures? Really? Aren't the rampaging black monsters enough to explain that they don't and never will stand a chance? Isn't it better to find a way to survive under the demon god's rule, especially because said god appears merciful and reasonable throughout that farce of a fight?

Think, McFly, think.

That was the only good part.
yes, Ainz' overall abilities are overwhelming, which is why any official grand heads-on encounter is futile.

Therefore, directly fighting Ainz is the only logical conclusion. Will that be easy? No, but infinitely easier than trying to kill those hell monsters, the death knight army and his personal servants.

Thanks to Gaseff, they now know that sword CAN kill Ainz, if only they can awaken its true powers. They also know about his time stop ability that apparently can be easily neutralized. Having both these enlightenments suddenly makes the outcom of a repeat duel much more open. Ofc, Ainz is still superior overall, but ... it's a start. Before, he was godly invincible. Now there's a crack.

[shinta|hikari]

What crack, lol.

Only Ainz knows about the power of that sword, and he just said it can "hurt" him, which means theoretically it can "kill" him. That's like saying a spoon can kill me, if I like sit there and let it dig into my eye or something. Not gonna happen.

Time stop can be easily countered from Ainz's perspective. Pretty sure the humans don't even know what time stop is, much less how to counter it. The two who saw it didn't even know what happened, so yeah, useless duel.

Just stop being idiots and get on Ainz's good side. I mean, why the fuck not? They serve a king for a stupider reason than bowing to absolute power (i.e. tradition).

The warrior dood should've just asked Ainz to stop pursuing the human army in exchange for his service. Then Momon wouldn't even need to do the fake turncoat thing because warrior dood can do it in his stead.