Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
I've been waiting, and you just sprung my trap card. /yugioh

Do you remember how, in Hunter x Hunter, at the end of the initial Hunter Exam Gon squeezed (with a single hand) and broke the arm of one of the strongest characters, Illumi? I remember. He was what, 12? Illumi was late teens or early twenties, and a super assassin? Remember how Nen (potential physical enhancement) was introduced in the very next arc?

Naruto... not again... that is not a great example of what you are advocating... Every single ninja has a baseline of superhuman abilities and endurance gained by simply training- same as BnHA.

Superhuman characteristics are standard in pretty much all shounen stories - most anime for that matter.

I'm starting to feel that, if Hero Academia had been what came out 20 years ago instead, you would be complaining about how this new Naruto garbage isn't living up to the 'greats' of old and fudging what should be humanly possible... You're just old enough to see fiction for what it is, and forcing too much internal logic on an abstraction to begin with is only going to fuel your own inner 'comic book guy'. Are some things silly? Yes. Do a few things not match up to reality, or even try? Oh yeah. But is complaining about that really enriching your enjoyment of... anything?

Surely you have some other commentary, deep down, trying to claw its way out that will spin our heads with your perceptive insights on the metaphorical relationship between the villain losing the hands 'holding himself back' for a power up, or how hero society as a whole and the nature of professional public safety stewardship had a hand in these current conflicts, or maybe who can even safely fight Shigaraki at this point... or maybe the OST is cool sometimes? Whatever it is, I would like to hear about that much more than "This is dumb- see you next week".



Also, as for this concept, I would recommend you read the 'Mashle' manga (also in WsJ)- it's pretty much about 'What if Clark Kent enrolled in Hogwarts'?
You're 100% missing the point, neflight.

HXH, Naruto and other series never made me *feel* like the hero did such an asspull that ruined the whole show's premise.

Gon breaking Illumi's hand? That was perfectly plausible, Gon had already been displayed to have superhuman abilities, and that was him fuled by rage.

Yes, everyone in Naruto has superhuman abilities - that's established as a premise. It is NOT a premise in BnHA! In BnHA the premise is: No quirk -> loser. Had the premise been that physical training leads to such superhuman abilities, the whole drama about Deku being quirkless wouldn't have worked. Tthat's why it's so bad.

And Naruto DID become this bad in the time skip, mainly when Sasuke casually defeated Deidara. That was Naruto's jumpin-the-shark moment and it only got worse from there. Meanwhile HXH has only gotten better and went on to explain power upgrades in vast detail - too much detail some people would say. Even the scene with Illumi's broken arm was explained: Gon pretty much used nen without knowing about it. Just like his rage later on would let him defeat Neferpitou.

It's an insult to both HXH as well as your own iq to draw parallels to BnHA here.