Classroom of the Elite: Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e

[KrayZ33]

Even if they didn't misbehave, there would still be students that spent it all. Points aren't just for playing around, also they're for essentials and food. A girl seeing how much she had toward the end of the month might buy jewelry, clothing, or expensive care products, a guy might splurge on the video games.

If they didn't misbehave, it doesn't matter if they spend it all, they get another 100k - that's the point. As long as you do your "job" in school, you are living the good live.


Class D is full of narcissistic, marvelistic and psychopathic kids (this is clear from their introductions alone). The Synopsis tells us that they are gathered in Class D on purpose.

So it's not that unlikely that the other classes are actually filled with somewhat responsible children or at least children who understand that they are judged by their merit after being told so multiple times (including the speech from their representative)

Edit: I will concede that this is Japan, where the nail sticking out gets hammered down. A misbehaving student in an upper class who brought the average payout down will get brought to heel, but the little system they set up doesn't work if Class A is the only one with points at the end of the first month. Class D is supposed to be the only fuckup class, right?

Why not? It would even work when no first year got any money, because they can look at their seniors which do have money. On top of that 2-D and 3-D will also be filled with garbage, unless you can rank up.

We can observe a similar development in schools in real life. Just compare a class with 2/30 bad apples with a class that has 28/30 bad apples

The 2/30 are likely to adapt - the 28/30 will remain the same (unless there are threatened to lose/ by something they actually care about) and the 2/30 "normal people" in the second class will actually change to the 28/30 in most cases.

edit: Now with a... less racist example.
edit2: The thing about this whole "suprise" is that it only works for 1 month anyway, they can probably get by using free products in the shops for now. So it's not like they have to sell their bodies or whatever. Who knows, maybe even the school rulebook has it written down, but no one in their class actually bothered to read it.
But now they know, and it's a question about whether they are able to change and considering that this school boasts with a 100% employment rate etc., we can assume that they will change... or at least develop traits that will help them getting a job.

[Ryllharu]

If they didn't misbehave, it doesn't matter if they spend it all, they get another 100k - that's the point. As long as you do your "job" in school, you are living the good live.

This school is an incubator for the elite. I imagine the grades reflect highly on the allowance they get, as much as their behavior. Probably a lot more, which keeps the system working as "intended," and gets around your correct observation that it would only be a real issue for the first month.

Performance and merit. Or again, beating down the student struggling with math or whatever, or helping them so the class as a whole doesn't suffer...unless they're graded individually, unlike Class D. But this school isn't a "help everyone succeed!" school. It's a performance and merit based system meant to produce the "best of the elite." The future leaders of Japan that can support the entire nation in the future. You can't transfer classes, so...the other classes were either pre-screened, or they expect drop outs and transfers for those that can't keep up.

Why not? It would even work when no first year got any money, because they can look at their seniors which do have money. On top of that 2-D and 3-D will also be filled with garbage, unless you can rank up.

And why, exactly, would upper classmen help them? Again, you're in the wrong mindset. This isn't a collective school that means to help everyone succeed. It's a meritocracy where the best of the best of the best, are meant to come out of. They have no reason to help their lessers except out of charity.

And why would they spend money on Class 1-A through 1-C, when they can spend their money on the broken, beaten down, affordable students of 2-D and 3-D respectively?

A pity payment to a down on their luck elite younger peer doesn't get an upperclassmen anything. They have a tough month according to your interpretation, and are fine thereafter. Presumably, they still have their pride, or they don't really deserve it, since they're not really elite if they can't manage their finances, are they? Maybe a favor, maybe some good will, but it's a gamble if the "investment" will ever be worth it down the road.

However, a payment for services rendered by an increasingly desperate group of peers (1-D, 2-D and 3-D) does pay itself off, immediately. A student with nothing in their account, and really in need of a new set of clothes...or as mentioned in the series already, underwear? It's a reverse-bidding war. How much in the way of services or entertainment can you get out of a desperate student?

Now, obviously, the series has already brought up the way out of this trap. The splash screen says, "There is nothing, within the realm of reason, that cannot be bought on the campus by using points."

So for example, earn enough points back, and secretly buy one of the stores. Like that coffee shop. Or buy the cafeteria. Then all the students are paying you points out of the store's profit. Then buy another. And another. Soon, the system allows for some real Eden of the East shit going on.

Unless the author completely squanders the opportunities they wrote themselves...which is very much possible.


edit:
And seriously, the episode begins with a Nietzsche quote. I think we can expect what this series intends with the environment of the school.

[KrayZ33]

And why, exactly, would upper classmen help them? Again, you're in the wrong mindset. This isn't a collective school that means to help everyone succeed. It's a meritocracy where the best of the best of the best, are meant to come out of. They have no reason to help their lessers except out of charity.

But they don't need the upper classmen to help them physically, they only need them to see how they can be and what they can achieve when they change themselves/go with the system. This works the other way around too

And why would they spend money on Class 1-A through 1-C, when they can spend their money on the broken, beaten down, affordable students of 2-D and 3-D respectively?

A pity payment to a down on their luck elite younger peer doesn't get an upperclassmen anything. They have a tough month according to your interpretation, and are fine thereafter. Presumably, they still have their pride, or they don't really deserve it, since they're not really elite if they can't manage their finances, are they? Maybe a favor, maybe some good will, but it's a gamble if the "investment" will ever be worth it down the road.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here. The way I read it, it seems like you are confused about how everyone gets their credits right now.
Why are you assuming class D "serves" or something? I think we are talking about different things here.

If Class D behaves correctly, they get money from the school/goverment,
If they don't behave they can get something from their upper classmen / or any class that didn't fail by begging or selling themselves, sure. But it's not like they have to spent money on them.

What I was saying is that even if 1-A to 1-D don't get any money in the first month, the system would still work because obviously the upper classes know how things roll and since they have money, it means the school isn't lying about giving people money based on how they perform.
Which means they have to get their shit together and join the money club.

So I don't understand why you are saying the system wouldn't work if only Class A managed to get money.
The reason why Class D is hell is because it's unlikely that they'll get their shit together in the first place.

And why, exactly, would upper classmen help them? Again, you're in the wrong mindset. This isn't a collective school that means to help everyone succeed. It's a meritocracy where the best of the best of the best, are meant to come out of. They have no reason to help their lessers except out of charity.

Well, I don't really have that mindset. At the same time however, this school has a 100% success rate, which suggest that the system works for everyone, even for the failures in class D.

[Ryllharu]

Seriously, read the episode title for this episode, and the next shown in the preview, and notice that the OP has a ton of philosophical quotes in it. I'm really surprised you somehow think there will be any goodwill at this school.

But they don't need the upper classmen to help them physically, they only need them to see how they can be and what they can achieve when they change themselves/go with the system. This works the other way around too

You're not answering the question. Why would they help Class 1-A through 1-C, even IF they found themselves in the same predicament as 1-D of having no money in May? They won't. Upperclassmen don't care about being an example of success. Class D is the example of what happens when you fail, and is the deterrent. You fail and go hungry, or you don't, or you take advantage of those who are hungry.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here. The way I read it, it seems like you are confused about how everyone gets their credits right now.
Why are you assuming class D "serves" or something? I think we are talking about different things here.

If Class D behaves correctly, they get money from the school/goverment,
If they don't behave they can get something from their upper classmen / or any class that didn't fail by begging or selling themselves, sure. But it's not like they have to spent money on them.
...
So I don't understand why you are saying the system wouldn't work if only Class A managed to get money.
The reason why Class D is hell is because it's unlikely that they'll get their shit together in the first place.

The system is designed so the Class D's fail, probably constantly. They're not going to get their shit together, they're not going to get paid again by the school. But other students can pay them. And those students have to have points to pay.

And that's where the problem is, if all the First Years have no money. That there might not be capital to spread around. Class D is going to go through that "real hell" that the upper classmen hinted at. The upper classmen aren't going to care. They have their own Class D's that are likely to be cheaper to spend money on entertaining them, or doing their laundry, or acting as their gophers, or acting as a secretary, or any number of other things. They've probably already given up after a year of this.

Class D will serve because they want to eat. They want better than budget items. But they can't get their classes to succeed to the point that they get paid. They're the poor students, the misbehaving, the social outcasts. They're set up to fail, to give those that succeed someone to use.

Well, I don't really have that mindset. At the same time however, this school has a 100% success rate, which suggest that the system works for everyone, even for the failures in class D.

It doesn't say they all get into college. It says they get them into college...or find them a job. It also doesn't say it's a good one. They just don't end up as NEETs.

[KrayZ33]

Seriously, read the episode title for this episode, and the next shown in the preview, and notice that the OP has a ton of philosophical quotes in it. I'm really surprised you somehow think there will be any goodwill at this school.

You're not answering the question. Why would they help Class 1-A through 1-C, even IF they found themselves in the same predicament as 1-D of having no money in May? They won't. Upperclassmen don't care about being an example of success. Class D is the example of what happens when you fail, and is the deterrent. You fail and go hungry, or you don't, or you take advantage of those who are hungry.

I'm not saying there is any goodwill, I'm also not saying they will "help".
I'm saying that they exist, which is enough for the failures to see how it's done or rather that it's possible to live the good live.

Which is why after 1 month, class A to C are probably able to earn enough, because they aren't psychopaths (because all/most of them are in class D)

Class D will serve because they want to eat. They want better than budget items. But they can't get their classes to succeed to the point that they get paid. They're the poor students, the misbehaving, the social outcasts. They're set up to fail, to give those that succeed someone to use.

Which is exactly what I'm saying, the system isn't any different for them (the reward system), it's just that they are failures and unlikely to succeed.



Just because Class A - C have money doesn't mean D will get any from them btw. Yeah you can humiliate them for a little for a few bucks, but after a while, even the most sadistic individual will lose interest. Even if/or especially when they start selling their bodies to multiple people (which I assume will never happen because this is goverment controlled, but that would be interesting).


edit: Interesting bit about the credits, there is someone else with 68k - probably that "know it all" smiling guy?
There are also some others that show up after the first ~15 people or so after a small gap.

one says 一之瀬 帆波 which I google kanji-ed from Ichinose the only name we (I?) know from Class B.
She is listed and it says "secret".
Which could mean the one after her is also from class B with 15k

I'm also interested in Kei Karuizawa, which is listed as a main character on myanimelist and looks like the type of girl who'd do certain things for money. (my heavy investment in doujinshi research of a certain kind tells me that)