just because they are 64bit does not mean that they are bad in 32 bit applications

as of right now the 64bit 3000+ is faster than any pentium on the market(exept for the pentium3.2ghz EE version but that is by far the most expensive one anyway)
the 64bit 3200+ kills all of the regular pentium4
the athlon64 FX are untouchable and directly comparable to pentium3.2ghz EE

and that is in 32 bit programs!




</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Let&#39;s look at Intel

Celeron 2.4 &#036;69
P4 2.4C &#036;159
P4 3.2C &#036;370

Double ouch&#33; The Celeron is pretty slow, but good enough for most users. The 2.4C is easy to clock up to 3.2Ghz, and that 3.2Ghz price is insane. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
AVOID celeron&#33;&#33;
that is the single most important rule when it comes to cpus

amd Duron cpus are far superior to them celerons
in all kinds of aplications
and they are cheaper too
(use nforce 2 motherboards for duron/athlon xp)





</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>EDIT : Avoid Socket 754 like the plague, it has a very limited upgrade path and is over-priced. The single-channel memory bus is already being pushed to it&#39;s limits by the 64/3200+, so even if faster socket 754 processors are released, they will not show much improvement. If you are going AMD64, wait for socket 939, or go ahead and get Socket 940 + Opteron 1xx series. Socket 754 is as dumb as Socket 423 was for P4, a limited and short-lived waste of money and time. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
socket 754 is not that bad
at least you can use normal ddr ram with it
the socket 940 is worse and will become obsolete (for the desktop market) before 754 does



socket 754 sure is not overpriced when compared to intel&#33;
the athlon64 3000+ has the best price/performance ration in the highend