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    I find it funny you still think people only want you to watch the episode instead of taking the tidbit that you shouldn't judge something after just listening to others. You should judge something after seeing it yourself.

    I won't use the word SJW if you find it polarizing. I just used it because it's convenient and fits the people I was talking about. Let's do this over.

    Please don't let people who don't actually care or know about what they are talking about (edit: in this specific topic) form your opinion. Please form your opinion after actually seeing said episode. Then no one can complain no matter what you think about it. Not watching the first episode already counts as making a judgment towards it.

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    The people who want me to watch the episode are like "Fucking SJWs hate this episode! Watch it!"

    If your entire argument boils down to "You should watch this because liberals hate it!" You aren't actually arguing the value of the content, you just want me to spite-watch something for you.
    I find this conclusion strange because no one actually said that. Several people actually pointed out that the content of the succeeding episodes are about as graphic (including rape) as the first one. It was also mentioned that the first episode wasn't as graphic as people make it out to be. Someone also said that the first episode was one of the best in the series because it portrayed the world really well. All that has nothing to do with spite watching. Using one word (i.e. SJW, incel, or whatever) doesn't make the entire argument "boil down to" anything.

    This is a bit terrifying because this is probably a US thing (and I live here). Sure people disagree about a lot of things, but they are more than their political leanings or the words they use. Just because someone used the term SJW doesn't immediately make their entire opinion worthless. The people you listened to might be right in saying the first episode was terrible, but the people who said otherwise but used one word you find off putting might also be correct. That's why I suggested that you don't just take people's words for granted and actually check and see before judging something.

    Take note that while I think the comments about GS episode 1 being too graphic are extremely exaggerated, I wouldn't say that everything the people who gave such comments say are nonsense. They likely have a lot of good things to say as well, which is why you like them. However, I wouldn't treat their words as gospel because that never ends well. I disagree with their opinion not because they are SJWs. I disagree because I watched the episode and found their claims too hyperbolic, so I used a suitable label to describe the people making such claims, which in hindsight wasn't a wise thing to do because such terms tend to incite anger. It's stupid to disagree with or hate something just because people you don't like like it.

    Finally, instead of trying to ignore someone, educating them might be a better approach. If you find the use of the word SJW offensive, it's better to explain that to the other party but still listen to what they have to say. If they are indeed reasonable, they will find a compromise. If you just outright ignore or dismiss them, you are contributing to the internet echo chambers that continues to divide people. We should instead find common ground with them, yes, even if they are incels, racists, snowflakes, Mfaulis, or whatever. You can't just wish them out of existence by ignoring them. It's best to talk with them, exchange information, and find common ground, where hopefully everyone is better off. This might not work all the time, but it's still better than not trying.

    I used to be quite divisive as well and ignored/dismissed anyone who didn't agree with my current views (which has changed gradually over the years, in retrospect), but 2016 proved that wasn't the right path.
    Last edited by shinta|hikari; Fri, 01-04-2019 at 01:30 PM. Reason: Elaboration
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