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    Episode 19:

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    Whatever weapon is gonna be easier to make than A CELLPHONE. facepalm. Not mention why doesn't he call it a walkie talkie? Because there's no.way he'll be able to program software.

    The worst part was the bs survival of the death gas by the 2 villains, though. They had no idea about what's coming, but just got out of the way right on time :/

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    walkie talkie yup. Or even portable two-way radio station.
    I remembered a movie where a student from the 40's builds a campus radio with almost nothing... and google tells me it's a foxbole radio.
    And Senku already has all the bits and pieces available.
    Two ways isn't even that important.
    And I can see foxhole radio working quite well outside the buzzing world we live in.
    Even a morse radio would suffice and you can learn morse quickly.

    In fact it's far more feasible than the antibiotics route he chose...

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    Did I see a fucking integrated circuit on that roadmap??

    I'll need to add popcorn to my shopping list next week.

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    I always cringe whenever I hear Tsukasa waxing about his ideals.

    His ambition is downright idiotic. He basically clumped all adults as corrupt, and all young people as pure, which is utterly moronic. He also seems to think that reviving older people will automatically allow them to take advantage of non-existent technology and rule them again, which makes no sense because the tools for them to do that are gone. Younger and stronger people will have the advantage.

    Also, he seems to be forgetting that the young people he is saving will also grow old... His entire character (and by extension, most of the plot of this show) is absolutely bonkers and dumb.

    That said, I should've expected as much from Tsukasa, the strongest highschooler.

    Also, the village should have bows by now, right? Why wouldn't Senku teach them that?

    Because if they had bows, they could've just killed spear dude and fire girl while they are sitting ducks on that tree. Heck, even just throwing stones at them can kill them at that point because falling = death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I always cringe whenever I hear Tsukasa waxing about his ideals.

    His ambition is downright idiotic. He basically clumped all adults as corrupt, and all young people as pure, which is utterly moronic. He also seems to think that reviving older people will automatically allow them to take advantage of non-existent technology and rule them again, which makes no sense because the tools for them to do that are gone. Younger and stronger people will have the advantage.

    That said, I should've expected as much from Tsukasa, the strongest highschooler.
    Tsukasa is an amazingly written rival character.

    He almost perfectly represents the attitude of rebellious youth.
    "If only we were in control and did things differently, we could build a better or even perfect society!"

    You hear that sentiment all the time from older high schoolers, idealists at universities (young and old), and entitled people just entering the workforce. Does saying it that way make me an old fogey? Sure does!

    Where Tsukasa is foolish isn't his warnings about those who enjoyed power wanting it back...he's a prime example of the very warning he repeats. No, he's wrong about thinking he can stamp out scientific progress and that maintaining the status quo of total anarchist freedom will make an ideal world. He can't stop progress. At all. It crops up naturally.

    Ruri is the only one who knows all 100 stories, so she does know what the world may have once been like, and how to stay safe. But Chrome started experimenting right away from an early age. Like stated in the acid episode, Senku knew that even if he died, Chrome would still ultimately start the seed of a new civilization. Suika figured out how to make glasses for herself. Kohaku was well on her way to discovering treatments for her sister through experimentation. An artisan, given the right inspiration, will figure out how to create masterpieces.

    It's not Senku and Tsukasa who are polar opposites. It's Tsukasa and Chrome. Idealistic youth, both going in totally opposite directions.

    Senku is just Ishigami Village's cheat code.

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    Amazingly written for children, I guess. That's not a hit on you (ya old fogey), but simply stating the target audience of this story.

    Of course people who previously had power want it back, but how will they do that if they will die out or get killed even before anyone re-invents guns? The entire premise of Tsukasa's fear is hogwash.

    Nothing he says makes any sense, which in itself makes sense, because he is still a child.

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    Also, how did the muscle hogs not die after getting hit by a spear from glasses dude? I didn't get that at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    The worst part was the bs survival of the death gas by the 2 villains, though. They had no idea about what's coming, but just got out of the way right on time :/
    Well, they saw the good guys suddenly run up a tree, and they did the same. Also, the gas masks were clearly visible.

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    His ambition is downright idiotic. He basically clumped all adults as corrupt, and all young people as pure, which is utterly moronic. He also seems to think that reviving older people will automatically allow them to take advantage of non-existent technology and rule them again, which makes no sense because the tools for them to do that are gone. Younger and stronger people will have the advantage.

    Also, he seems to be forgetting that the young people he is saving will also grow old... His entire character (and by extension, most of the plot of this show) is absolutely bonkers and dumb.
    100%.

    And the worst part is, he hates all adults cause, like, some drunk guy yelled at him once. Like, wtf dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Well, they saw the good guys suddenly run up a tree, and they did the same. Also, the gas masks were clearly visibl.
    "This wind ... death" clearly happens before either Suika gets up the tree nor gas masks are visible nor Senku shouts 'get in the tree'.

    It's bs.

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    It's cool that Chrome is at the point where he's inventing things on his own now, even if they HAVE already been invented before.

    Hydroelectric Power does seem pretty damn important.

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    Also seems obvious. Senku is stupid when necessary for the plot I guess :i

    Speaking of which: The whole 'we'lll beat them with communication!' Is so dumb 🙄 If Tsukasa, spear guy and acrobat girl + some mob attack, Senku and everyone will just get murdered asap. Hell, Tsukasa would do it all by himself.

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    I was a little bit angry at the scenarist to take that long to let go of manpower for mechanical tasks, because it is fairly low tech compared to drug chemistry.
    But I guess the point is Chrome and others from the tribe have to grow technically and start experimenting and create new stuff with the knowledge they acquire with Senku.
    And even if the waterwheel is fairly low tech, it took hundreds of years before it was really useful, reliable and knowledge/experience allowed for better adaptation to where the intended use was.

    As for information being key, even Hyoga pointed that out. My guess is outside the trio, no one is really strong and anyone can switch side... And even that pink girl might switch at some point, or she becomes key to have Hyoga switch. Although my guess is he won't for the balance of the story.
    No one being really strong outside the trio enables to strike isolated groups whenever possible when they do chores outside camp for example.

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    The only reason the village survived the earlier fight was because the spear was sabotaged. Replace one spear, and the Tsukasa's team would be winning again in wet weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Speaking of which: The whole 'we'lll beat them with communication!' Is so dumb ��
    You are severely underestimating how much power instant communication has in warfare. Even moreso when it can't be intercepted.

    Have you even watched Girls und Panzer? They devote two entire episodes to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    You are severely underestimating how much power instant communication has in warfare. Even moreso when it can't be intercepted.

    Have you even watched Girls und Panzer? They devote two entire episodes to it.
    Ok:
    - Tsukasa attacks Senku
    - Senku talks over phone
    - Senku is ripped apart

    :/

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    Tsukasa never gets to Senku because Senku is always aware of his location with the use of scouts and spies.

    That said, Tsukasa's "strategy" to wait is idiotic. He and spear guy are enough to apparently wipe-out huge swathes of humans. Just attack during the night and silently kill the two bridge watchers, or swim to the island, climb in, and assassinate Senku.

    For a show that tries to pretend its heroes are "smart," it is dumb as bricks.
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    I will say, they talk about how defensible the village is, but it seems like most of Senku's Kingdom of Science stuff is located OUTSIDE the village. So it seems pretty vulnerable.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Also seems obvious. Senku is stupid when necessary for the plot I guess :i
    I'm sure Senku was planning to get around to it when it became part of the build order, but his surprise was that Chrome went out and did it on his own.

    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    As for information being key, even Hyoga pointed that out. My guess is outside the trio, no one is really strong and anyone can switch side... And even that pink girl might switch at some point, or she becomes key to have Hyoga switch. Although my guess is he won't for the balance of the story.
    No one being really strong outside the trio enables to strike isolated groups whenever possible when they do chores outside camp for example.
    I honestly think that at some point, even Tsukasa is going to switch sides. Because he feels very much like a "first arc" villain, and not a big bad for the entire series.

    Tsukasa's idea of civilization is honestly really dumb, and he has a "might makes right" mentality. And I think once he's beaten, he'll just join up with Senku. Because he already likes and respects Senku, and is only his enemy because their ideas for civilization are incompatible.

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    And yet Tsukasa has murdered people ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    And yet Tsukasa has murdered people ...
    Right. Just like half the allies of every shounen protagonist ever.

    Tsukasa is your Vegeta/Sasuke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Right. Just like half the allies of every shounen protagonist ever.

    Tsukasa is your Vegeta/Sasuke.
    Being a trope doesn't mean It's ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Being a trope doesn't mean It's ok.
    Tropes aren't inherently bad writing.

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