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    If anyone still thinks Kumoko is the Demon Lord herself with the black and white hair, you weren't paying attention this episode. All I'm saying. One of them was a red herring, and now we have evidence pointing the other way. They showed us.

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    Nah, this episode gave us the explanation we needed for Kumoko's arc to Demon Lord right at the beginning. There's something with this world where if something drastic doesn't change, the entire world is going to die. It's obvious that whatever her purpose for being a Demon Lord and invading the humans is going to be tied to that.

    I can already foresee a situation where, kid finds out Kumoko is to blame for her brothers death, is trying to kill her, even though dragon girl knows who she is, and kid forces her to try and kill Kumoko.
    Maybe, but far more likely, Fei knows what Kumoko knows about the world by that point.

    They both have points in Taboo. Shun doesn't, and the psycho zealot girl who is now declared "The Saint" will be looking for it.

    Kumoko got the data-dump. Fei probably will at some point. Shun will definitely want to kill Kumoko, and Fei will know Kumoko is at least aware that the world will end unless they do something drastic (like conquer the world?). She just won't be able to go against Shun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    If anyone still thinks Kumoko is the Demon Lord herself with the black and white hair, you weren't paying attention this episode. All I'm saying. One of them was a red herring, and now we have evidence pointing the other way. They showed us.

    Ryll, if you know the light novel, I find postings like this really shitty You're welcome to comment on the weekly episodes, but the above is a spoiler for me, unless you don't know the light novel and I didn't notice it myself in the episode.

    So just in case ...

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Ryll, if you know the light novel, I find postings like this really shitty You're welcome to comment on the weekly episodes, but the above is a spoiler for me, unless you don't know the light novel and I didn't notice it myself in the episode.

    So just in case ...
    1) I used to read the manga, and I stopped well before the anime started (edit: because it is glacially slow in comparison). The manga only ever shows Kumoko's POV in the labyrinth, it never shows the other timeline, so that half of the equation is all new to me. The anime will completely eclipse the manga by the time it ends.
    2) I know you don't pay attention, and you fill in gaps that you overlooked with stuff from your head-cannon, so I am confident you missed the previous signs that they were misleading us.
    3) You're a fucking idiot if you missed how obviously telegraphed it was in this episode.

    - The white girl's eyes flash before they flare. It's quick, but pause it and count.
    - The survivor informs Shun and the audience that Julius was killed by a rot attack.
    - The episode immediately jumps back to Kumoko after that explanation.
    - She uses a rot attack with her new upgraded eye attack.

    The scenes are juxtaposed to make this comparison really obvious. It is a direct contrast to the deliberate misinformation earlier in the season when the show was pretending there weren't two different timelines and they were doing purposeful juxtaposed scenes to try to make it look the other way around. They were pretty smart about the misleads before, but they've flipped it now that the Dragon guy and D revealed themselves and we know concretely they are different timelines. It's clever directorial composition. Not typical for anime.

    Are they deliberately misleading us again to make it look like the white girl killed Julius when whatshisface doesn't actually know what happened because he died temporarily before being revived? Maybe. It's possible it is another red herring. I just highly doubt it. They've revealed the two timelines. They've revealed the administrators, they've shown us the "truth" of the world, we've seen the dragon guy again in that flashback. They don't seem to have a lot more things to deliberately mislead us about Kumoko and how she interacts with the world.

    But keep bitching about me "spoiling" to cover for you missing all the rather heavy-handed hints in all the series we both happen to be watching this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    1) I used to read the manga, and I stopped well before the anime started (edit: because it is glacially slow in comparison). The manga only ever shows Kumoko's POV in the labyrinth, it never shows the other timeline, so that half of the equation is all new to me. The anime will completely eclipse the manga by the time it ends.
    2) I know you don't pay attention, and you fill in gaps that you overlooked with stuff from your head-cannon, so I am confident you missed the previous signs that they were misleading us.
    3) You're a fucking idiot if you missed how obviously telegraphed it was in this episode.

    - The white girl's eyes flash before they flare. It's quick, but pause it and count.
    - The survivor informs Shun and the audience that Julius was killed by a rot attack.
    - The episode immediately jumps back to Kumoko after that explanation.
    - She uses a rot attack with her new upgraded eye attack.

    The scenes are juxtaposed to make this comparison really obvious. It is a direct contrast to the deliberate misinformation earlier in the season when the show was pretending there weren't two different timelines and they were doing purposeful juxtaposed scenes to try to make it look the other way around. They were pretty smart about the misleads before, but they've flipped it now that the Dragon guy and D revealed themselves and we know concretely they are different timelines. It's clever directorial composition. Not typical for anime.

    Are they deliberately misleading us again to make it look like the white girl killed Julius when whatshisface doesn't actually know what happened because he died temporarily before being revived? Maybe. It's possible it is another red herring. I just highly doubt it. They've revealed the two timelines. They've revealed the administrators, they've shown us the "truth" of the world, we've seen the dragon guy again in that flashback. They don't seem to have a lot more things to deliberately mislead us about Kumoko and how she interacts with the world.

    But keep bitching about me "spoiling" to cover for you missing all the rather heavy-handed hints in all the series we both happen to be watching this season.
    I'm not "bitching". I was genuinely worried that it might have been a spoiler. You laid out how it wasn't, so everything's fine. Chill.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    They both have points in Taboo. Shun doesn't, and the psycho zealot girl who is now declared "The Saint" will be looking for it.
    Kumoko is only learning that stuff at max level though. Faye had to perform Kinslaying to get the level she has. Unless helping the Hero has her constantly fighting other Earth Dragons, I'm not sure what would get Faye enough Taboo points.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Ryll, if you know the light novel, I find postings like this really shitty You're welcome to comment on the weekly episodes, but the above is a spoiler for me, unless you don't know the light novel and I didn't notice it myself in the episode.
    I KINDA was thinking the same thing. He's obviously talking about the woman that killed the kid's brother. The all-white color scheme and the gravity powers DO fit Kumoko. So it COULD be here.

    But the Demon Lord fits Kumoko in more ways than that. Some of which are SPECIFICALLY spider-related. So that's still the obvious pick. Though, like he said, it could be an intentional misdirect.

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