Originally Posted by Kraco
I was just having the idea that Kumoko and D are the result of a bad transfer D had to perform as the explosion occured.
D used that spider to keep some level of control in that world,,and the spider now Kumoko inherited some of D's memories and intellect/character.
I know, silly idea.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Finally got around to watching the episode.
So with the scene at the beginning of the episode, it's confirmed that Kumoko is the white girl that killed the previous hero. Demon Lord reminisced about Kumoko and then the scene cut directly to white girl, with a shot of the two of them filling the screen.
Peace.
I guess she must be connected to Kumoko in one way or another, but how exactly is another question. It seems impossible Kumoko would have merely started working for the Demon Lord, seeing how the demon lord wanted Kumoko dead. The Demon Lord said she's ruling over all the spider monsters, so I reckon she won't suffer a specimen not under her control. Is the white woman then something under her control? Logic would dictate so. It could be a "thing" Kumoko arranged to fool the Demon Lord, to make the Demon Lord believe she cracked Kumoko and now Kumoko's under her control like all the other spider monsters. Or she's something else and the author or the anime director is merely trolling by showing her like that.
You have a weird definition of "confirmed".
They've hinted way harder at other characters previously who have turned out to not be Kumoko. She could easily be just ANOTHER red herring, now that they've removed the Demon King as a suspect.
For all we know, she could be one of Kumoko's remnants that evolved beyond the others.
I said confirmed because my last post here was me guessing Kumoko was the white girl. The only other red herring was actually the demon lord, which is now ruled out. All the other white spiders shown were actually Kumoko or her vestiges. Sure, white girl can be an evolved remnant, but that is still technically Kumoko.
Peace.
Possibly pretty deep in the technicalities, depending on what the pale woman actually is.
I'm not saying it's NOT her. But saying it's "confirmed" is stupid at this point after they've had multiple fakeouts.
Right, vestiges. A thing they only confirmed existed in this episode. Which means anything that was a vestige was a Kumoko red herring until now.
I like that the demon lord now is on borrowed time, and has to hunt down Kumoko's floating head before she herself gets mind-devoured. Some good tension and stakes there. Funny that the old adventurer considered even talking to the vestiges as provocative enough to put them in danger, and punches the hero for it. Wasn't he ready to die for the cause last episode when his 'cowardly' son wouldn't guide the party, or was that the alcohol talking? He also confirmed that Kumoko sometimes heals people? Glad he said that, because it's never been shown on screen.
She has 8 eyes hidden in her normal looking irises. They flashed on screen when she attacked Julius' party.
She's spider kin for sure.
She uses rot attacks too, which as far as we know and implied by D, the only spider who has that and survived to evolve is Kumoko. She nearly killed herself the first time she used it in the last evolution, and she already had rot resistance.
But vestiges are a part or at least produced by her, whereas the demon lord is a completely different character. It isn't much of a red herring to trick the audience into thinking parts/clones of herself are herself.
Peace.
Well, that means the vestiges are completely different characters too
Demon lord is the origin-spider whose offspring created Kumoko whose offspring are probably the" nightmare's vestiges".
They are all different entities because otherwise, kin-control wouldn't work on them.
But the Demon Lord was able to use kin-control on them.
When did the demon lord kin-control Kumoko's vestiges? I must've missed that.
Peace.
Presumably referring to when the Ariel remarked that someone was "getting above their station" and the Vestige froze in fear, allowing Julius to get a killing blow on it.
She may have some degree of connection to them, the same way Kumoko is killing her own mother.
If I had to guess, it's all according to Kumoko's design. I still think Kumoko is hiding somewhere, though I don't mean strictly physically. Being the pale woman would be a bit too much in plain sight, in my opinion. I don't see why the Demon Lord would risk it, nor why Kumoko herself would risk it. The pale woman being just the most developed vestige would be more plausible, based on what I can see now. If the vestiges are under the Demon Lord's control, as far as the Demon Lord knows, she wouldn't feel the pressure to hunt them down, as it would also reduce her army's fighting power. She ought to be happy as long as Kumoko herself is destroyed, seeing how she also needs to end the mental attack.
However, since we got a scene of Kumoko wondering how to avoid annihilation and because the vestiges simply exist, like I said before, I reckon they are some kind of backups for Kumoko. The Demon Lord wouldn't realise it. Technically this could bring us to the pale woman being a backup Kumoko already used, without the Demon Lord having a clue, but, again, I don't see why Kumoko would risk serving right under the Demon Lord's nose. The Demon Lord was already once "betrayed" by one of her spiders, so in the future she ought to be all the more careful, logically.
Episode 18
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The Kumoko sections are just so much fun. Hero sections.. okay or miss sometimes.
So we now know that Ariel, Potimas and Dustin are rather big players in the world, with Ariel being once ?close to the Goddess. No one seems to be mentioning Dragon King fellow. For all we know, D could have played a Goddess role in the past.
Bandit killing was slightly weird. From the episode, there was no suggestion that the praying group were bandits. It just looked like Kumoko killed a bunch of hooded praying men. Rather confusing to watch.
Also...
"Sir, there's big trouble. The monster's healing the ill!!"
Okay... yeah.. how troublesome.
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Fri, 05-14-2021 at 12:04 PM.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
She's so dumb sometimes...
"Oh, they're starving..."
"Be sure to eat more!"
"Sure! I'll gladly accept your offering of food!"
Kids don't get liver cancer. They get stuff like leukemia or various bone cancers (Osteosarcomas and Ewing sarcoma).
That guy got liver cancer by eating mouldy food, so Kumoko and her poison/rot resistance taking it instead was a good move from my perspective.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Oh, was the apple moldy? Okay then.
Another idea regarding Kumoko and the demon lord:
-We've been led to think Kumoko is now that mute girl sent to kill and that she's now an underling to the demon lord.
But what if she's in fact the one controlling the demon lord ?
Far in the future, her skills would just be out of this world, probably administrator or game/world creator class.
She might use the demon lord as a puppet to pull the strings without being noticed.
Let's not forger she knows that world is doomed and she's probably trying to find solution, as is the demon lord who also got access to the same revelation.
There's control, but there's also working towards the same goal. That could work with what we've seen from the present timeline.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
The praying people were later confirmed to be the pontiff's spies. Kumoko was right to kill them too.
Foul Feeder is the same skill Kumoko got from eating the Rot bugs. So the kid got liver cancer from eating something far worse than moldy food, probably out of desperation. His mother was healthier, but only barely.
It's really funny that Kumoko is accidentally accelerating two wars. Whatever nasty plan the elves have, and a regular religious crusade. Three if Ariel starts her war because she crosses the other two while trying to kill her uncooperative spawn.
- Shun seems to have a good opinion of the pontiff, and while he's not good, the pontiff doesn't seem to have some global nastiness and secret world domination plan like the elves do. He just wants to exterminate the other sect. He also commented that everything the elves do make the overall world shittier. I really want to know more about that!
- The elves are involved in human trafficking (to collect reincarnations, guess who is connected to that?!), but Potiamas seems to have other ambitions achieved through routine assassinations, and manipulating other political factions to do his dirty work for him. Like Shun's father. The elves are really shitty people, and probably the worst of all the organizations we've seen.
- I assume the pontiff actually isn't mind controlled, he's just using Hugo the way the elves have been using Shun's family. It's all political too, because he even knows they both worship the same deity.
- Sophia's family is getting caught in the middle of a turf war between the elves and the pontiff. Both factions want them dead. The pontiff because they're prominent goddess worshipers, and the elves because they're evil and collecting reincarnations for some plan.
Sophia's ditzy mom is real cute though. Cheerfully extoling a demon spider as a divine beast while her husband is wisely suspicious of a third faction's representative appearing before his family.
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