Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation

[MFauli]

I feel like people are complaining about how Orstead switched gears so fast, but we don't actually know what the girl said to him to make him do that. She might have had a really good, convincing argument. We don't know, because Rudeus passed out, and Eris doesn't pay attention to details.

The guy who was just explained to be utterly non-negotiable, a force of nature-like character, listening to a "good, convincing argument"? That only makes it worse. The only thing I'd accept is if his companion turned out to be the #1 of the Seven Sword Gods, which is doubtful.

The problem with the scene is that it doesn't make any climatic sense. Orsted attacked with the intention to kill Rudy for good. The end. Then screen fades to black and back, and now Rudy is alive ... saved by Orsted?! Had Orsted said "kid, I don't want to kill you", but then ended up having to fight Rudy nonetheless, THEN him healing Rudy would have made sense.

It's just nonsense. I'd go as far as saying that it ruins the tension of the whole series going forward, because now you can always expect a "leave jail-card" even from the most dire situations. Just have the opponent have a "mysterious" change of heart that will be bs-explained much, much later. It's a cheap way to tell a story. A deus ex machine with Rudy awakening powers to fight Orsted would have been more satisfying.

[Kraco]

The guy who was just explained to be utterly non-negotiable, a force of nature-like character, listening to a "good, convincing argument"? That only makes it worse. The only thing I'd accept is if his companion turned out to be the #1 of the Seven Sword Gods, which is doubtful.

Why wouldn't he listen to a good, convincing argument? If he had no motivation, no interest in anything, he wouldn't have killed Rudeus in the first place. However, he seems highly motivated to do anything he can to hurt the Man-God. If the masked woman, Nanahoshi, said something that convinced him that letting Rudeus live would serve his purposes better, why wouldn't he do it? If you ask me, Orsted didn't look like a deep thinker, no matter how powerful and skilled he is, so maybe the woman is the brains of their duo.

The problem with the scene is that it doesn't make any climatic sense. Orsted attacked with the intention to kill Rudy for good. The end. Then screen fades to black and back, and now Rudy is alive ... saved by Orsted?! Had Orsted said "kid, I don't want to kill you", but then ended up having to fight Rudy nonetheless, THEN him healing Rudy would have made sense.

What kind of climactic thrill did you expect from a scene of the main character dying in the middle of a series? This clearly isn't any Les Miserables either. It was a foregone conclusion Rudeus wouldn't die for real. It was only a matter of how he's going to revive. It was a really good fight, but the MC doesn't obviously die. Besides, Orsted clearly did want to kill him because Rudeus is connected to the Man-God. "I don't want to kill you, but I will kill you nonetheless" is the kind of stuff a two-bit villain would say.

It's just nonsense. I'd go as far as saying that it ruins the tension of the whole series going forward, because now you can always expect a "leave jail-card" even from the most dire situations. Just have the opponent have a "mysterious" change of heart that will be bs-explained much, much later. It's a cheap way to tell a story. A deus ex machine with Rudy awakening powers to fight Orsted would have been more satisfying.

Deus ex machina is never better, unless it's a pure comedy series and the deus ex machina is hilarious. This was pretty much the only way this could happen. Orsted wouldn't have allowed Rudeus to stay alive, unless Orsted himself accepted it. Rudeus suddenly getting a huge Dragon Ball powerup to fight the number 2 or 1 most powerful individual in the world would have ruined everything. This series didn't go the instantly OP route for the MC, which is one detail that makes this far less trashy than most isekai out there.

And no, Orsted didn't have any change of heart. At least I don't think he had. Whatever Nanahoshi said made him reverse his decision, but it doesn't automatically mean he feels different about it. Orsted seemed like a dick, so I wouldn't expect too much from him. After all, he decided to kill Rudeus simply because Rudeus knew about the Man-God. There could be a number of explanations for reversing the decision. Although I don't remember any details, the manga might have mentioned something about it, so I can't type here anything at all, to avoid writing spoilers unwittingly.

[DarthEnderX]

The problem with the scene is that it doesn't make any climatic sense. Orsted attacked with the intention to kill Rudy for good. The end. Then screen fades to black and back, and now Rudy is alive ... saved by Orsted?!

No, it faded to black with the girl going "Hey, wait a minute, what if he's..."...and then he's alive. Which is an important distinction.

After all, he decided to kill Rudeus simply because Rudeus knew about the Man-God. There could be a number of explanations for reversing the decision.

The first thing that comes to mind is "If he's connected to the Man God, maybe we can use him to GET to the Man God, so you can kill him."

[MFauli]

No, it faded to black with the girl going "Hey, wait a minute, what if he's..."...and then he's alive. Which is an important distinction.

He could have listened to Rudy before attacking him. I don't care about what that girl said when he's already demonstrated that he's not willing to listen to reason.