Zzzzzz.
This episode was trash.
All the interesting dialogues occurred off screen ("Yes, Elinalise told me."), seducing someone while they're grieving is toxic as hell, and objectively very little happened in this episode because all the interesting parts will come after they get back fully home.
It's piss-poor writing and storyboarding like this that makes me annoyed that this series is so highly thought of in Japan.
Remember when Ruijerd said to Eris "If he's feeling down, you should comfort him yourself"?
Roxy just went all the way with that.
It feels weird though.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
So, how long until the 3rd season starts? Only 1 episode remaining and this one was very slooooow. As much as I like Rudy boning Roxy at long last, there really didn't happen much. Could have shortend the whole Roxy-romancing to the first half and make the second half about the arrival at home. sigh.
Fwiw I'm glad this anime dares go into detail about having more than one wife. There's no objective rule that says only having one wife makes sense, and the whole "you can only love one person" is also bs. I wonder if there's cases of one woman having multiple husbands, though, it'd be a bit weird that way round, not gonna lie. All women have lesbian tendencies, but no straight man would go near another man.
In regards to season 3, again, I hope it finally hyperfocuses on the bigger plot points. Not just as some side projects with a little bit of info here and there, but pressing forward at full speed. Mainly:
- finding a way back "home"
- who is Laplace and how to punish him
- growing strong enough to protect his family from the Dragon god in case something ever happened
- what is the Hitogami's goal, is it something good, and if not, cann he be fought against?
And meeting Eris again would be nice, too.
Die she "go all the way", though? Later at the first camp fire, Rudy thought to himself that he promised Sylphie to stay faithful, so he cannot proceed. Which to me implied that they hadn't had sex at this point? Although the bed scene certainly evoked the impression of them having sex. I dunno.Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
*sigh*
/insert something woke
At least you're self-aware <3
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
If it is going to be anyone who is named in the series, my bet would be it is going to be Princess Ariel.
The immortal demon empress would be another, but she and Badigadi are monogamous by the sound of it.
He's a Greyrat, what did you expect?
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Nothing cures depression like gettin' some!
Unless the cause of your depression is ED...
Also, Hitogami told Rudeus he'd regret leaving.
Last week I thought that was Paul dying and seeing Zenith as she is.
What if something also happened at home while he was gone, something only Rudeus could have prevented? Hope Sylphiette isn't the victim.
Regarding polygamy, I think I remember Sylphiette telling Rudeus she did not mind him having several wives.
But maybe once she's confronted to that reality, she will change her mind.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
It should make things easier that the second wife would be Roxy. Sylphie ought to know how much Roxy meant to Rudeus from early age, consequently also affecting Sylphie herself a whole lot. It's entirely possible they might not have ever interacted in the village without Roxy having appeared as Rudeus's teacher. If they hadn't, Sylphie would have learned neither (silent) magic nor proper manners, resulting in her not becoming Ariel's bodyguard, if indeed she had even survived the teleportation incident. Through a proxy it may be, yet Roxy still had a gigantic effect on Sylphie's own life. It wouldn't really be healthy if Sylphie accepted Roxy out of a sense of gratitude, but just remembering Roxy isn't a perfect stranger must mean something. Positive feelings are positive feelings, nonetheless. Sylphie and Roxy also have a lot in common, both having spent a lot of time in Paul's household.
I didn't really mind this episode. Roxy doing what she did worked. It was partially out of her own lust and love, but the end result speaks for itself: It did knock Rudeus out of his misery. The ep was slow, but ever since the first two cours, this has been a slow series. Nobody's shocked by that anymore.
Do you have stats backing that lesbian statement?
Polygamy or polyandry is relatd to society rules and the way it works. That medieval like society with lots of physical violence and monsters sure put emphasis on strength that favors patriarchy.
Regarding faithfulness, it feels like it was related to his feelings and having sex isn't unfaithful, as strange as it sounds... Maybe like a presidential blowjob not considered as a sexual intercourse ?
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Rudeus is a cheating bastard like his father.
I have no idea why all of you just ignored that.
@Mfauli - Women also like to collect harem members if they can. Look at all the cheating bitches that have many baby daddies.
Peace.
Yeah, and I find that oddly heartwarmingPaul's spirit lives on in Rudy ^^
Yeah, and we judge them negatively for it.@Mfauli - Women also like to collect harem members if they can. Look at all the cheating bitches that have many baby daddies.
I mean, this is a bigger discourse, but I'm annoyed how modern Western society tries to equalize men and women so hard that ANY differences are being ignored and even taboo'ed. Ofc, the law should treat both genders the same. But when it comes to biological facts, there's undeniable differences. One being: Men can spread their sperm in the millions, every day. Women can only get pregnant about once a year, think about the longterm consequences. Men have to work hard to get pussy. Women protect their pussy and only have to say "you're allowed" and get a man. Man and women are not the same. Therefore, a man with a harem is something to be respected (unless money is involved), because he worked hard to get these women. A woman with multiple guys? She's just a thirsty slut, because no effort was involved.
And now you guys can crucify me as a misogynistic mega nazi
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
S2 Part 2 Episode 12:
It was a nice wrap up .... for a story that's still ongoing!
I really wish they'd have ended the season with SOME teaser for what will pull Rudy out of this massive comfort zone he's created for himself now. There's only one dangerous thing lingering above him rn, which is Hitogami's "you'll regret going there". Which I would have attributed to Paul dying, but Rudy himself said in this episode that that was sadness, not regret. And then the episode ends on "I want to live a live that I can end without regrets". So ... we probably haven't yet found out about the regret cause. And tbh, with 2 wives, a daughter, two sisters, a helpless mother and a secondary mother, there's SOOOO much potential for tragedy and thus regret. If I had to make a spontaneous guess, I'd say the regret will come from Zenith, maybe some evil spirit has her possessed and some day Rudy wakes up and Zenith has slaughtered some members of this big family.
That aside, I'm not sure whether the 2-wives-situation was done plausibly. I think it'd be best for NOBODY watching this to draw any real life-comparisons, because not only is this a fantasy world, we also had Sylphie explicitely give her okay for Rudy to fuck around, and Roxy was okay with it before they arrived. So, in this specific situation, it was a good resolution. I'd have preferred a little more Paul-references, more than they did. Some more jokes about how Rudy has become Paul for real now, lol.
Anyway, can't wait for season 3, BUT hopefully that won't be a slice of life-season stationary at their home.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Given how garbage the overall episode of Mushoku Tensei was last week, I'm suitably impressed with how telling Norn went. Actual decent writing, natural reactions from Norn, and good acting of it.
Norn was probably the highlight of this episode for me. Even if people generally hate her, I think she had very natural reactions to the circumstances in this episode and it was refreshing for a character to be upset when she should, unhappy about the results, but understand that her father went out valiantly protecting his family. Rudeus missing an arm alone proved that the whole group went into a fight that surpassed their capabilities and paid the corresponding price.
Norn didn't immediately back down from being upset because of it, she only calmed down after they gave her the play-by-play of what led to the pyrrhic victory.
Norn is finally starting to feel like a complete character.
I think it did go plausibly. Sylphie is still a boring doormat of a character, so her accepting it was a given. Norn got to voice the expected opposition and was the perfect character to do so given how normally righteous she is. Rudy didn't deny any of what Norn was calling him out for, so we didn't get an obnoxious harem style speech about how being a pervy douche is okay behavior because of some bullshit or another. He knew he could get potentially criticized for it and did. They even nicely tied back in Norn's previous depression and to try to placate her, but while it didn't fully work, they even had Norn acknowledge that she was being a bit unreasonable and that not one of Paul's children is a follower of Millis.
It annoys me that Slyphie is such a passive character with very little spark to her. But it is consistent with her bland character.
Really? I think it's weird she has such a huge problem with it. Given that the dad she worships also had 2 wives.
But on the other hand, he'd still have...the other hand.
I did like Norn's display here.
I do imagine that she'd have given Rudy a much harder time had he not lost his hand. That pisses me off, but whatever.
She burned Roxy for being small which I thought was funny given we know she's at least 50 years old.
We didn't have any room for it in this episode, but I'd love to see some Zanoba-Roxy interactions; that guy admires Roxy too.
As for the whole regret thing, if Rudy hadn't had gone:
1) Paul probably wouldn't have died because he wouldn't have made it to the bottom floor.
2) Roxy would be dead, but if they never found her then they'd forever think she's missing.
3) Mum would still be missing.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Yeah, how DARE Sylphie be a mom. Moms are so BLAND!11 /s
No, you misunderstood something. Hitogami told him he'd regret it IF he went. He went. So now something happened that Rudy wil regret, but apparently we don't know yet what it is.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I think it would have been justifiable and fitting her character. She believes her brother is incredibly strong. She knows he's stronger than Paul. She's heard the stories of him facing off against the demon emperor in the courtyard. She's heard all about his incredible feats. As much as she admired Paul for many years, she knows her older brother is very strong.
Had he come back unscathed, she might have thought he was pandering to her. She might have thought he could have done more, tried harder, been better, been the "Hero" he supposedly is.
But seeing him down a forearm immediately proves they were already at their limit against whatever killed their father.
I think you're forgetting something. Hitogami has an expected outcome for Rudeus and those around him. We don't know what it is. Hitogami has been manipulating him for a long time, including forcing him to manifest in his old body in their discussions. His prediction was an attempt to sway Rudeus into what HE wants, not what Rudeus wants.
I fully believe Hitogami didn't actually foresee Rudeus being able to use the teleportation circles to make the trip. While Hitogami obviously is also a liar, so anything he says can potentially be a simple lie to drive his unknown agenda, in this case even if there was some concrete thing Rudeus would regret or not regret (that is, we are assuming Hitogami wasn't lying), Rudeus might have simply avoided the whole thing by cutting the years long trip to mere months. We have seen previous proof, potentially unless it was just another lie, that as long as the other "gods" are involved, Hitogami isn't anymore quite as wise as he would be otherwise. Those teleportation circles are a secret guarded by Orsted, so Hitogami might have been mostly unaware of their potential use.
I had no problems with the second wife presentation in the episode. The scene went better than I expected. At the end of the day, it was almost funny Sylphie readily acknowledged she knew what she was getting into when she married a Grayrat. It's sure a key to a happy marriage that you can accept certain fundamental things about the other person before you make the decision to marry. The world is full of failed marriages that were based on the wish to reshape the other person after the rings have been exchanged. I'd say the important thing here is that Rudeus did pick a meaningful person, not just some random woman. She pretty much said it in this episode herself, but Roxy is a person Sylphie can very much sympathise with. Furthermore, even if Sylphie had never met Roxy before personally, one might say she almost had since without Roxy, it's possible nothing would have happened between Sylphie and Rudeus back in the village.
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