Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
Well, he didn't dismiss your point and didn't called you that either from what I saw. You presented an hypothetical, and he gave you a simple real world application of it. I mean, quoting your full post again which was huge, served little purpose. I mean, save it for your book? LOL, it honestly a was a huge ramble... not a reason enough to rage quit in my view. /shrugs

I'm of mind of being in both camps, to a point. I don't believe "children" (and here I mean mostly late teens) are always entirely blameless or that they're automatically a victim of something... but law-wise, yeah they're victims. As for the adults, regardless of intentions or the whatever made the "relationship" unique, they're ALWAYS in the wrong. And yes, "grooming" (as in the act of molding to be prepared to pounce once they hit legal age) is very wrong. It's very gray area admittedly, on how it forms about, but since not always that's the intention, but the existence of the possibility just makes it wrong from the get go. And yes, selected ages are mostly arbitrary/partly science/partly social contract acceptances; deal with it.

"Children" need to be protected, regardless of how special or supposedly unique the circumstance is.

Now, as it regards to Rudy. I'm not sure what the correct answer is. Some of his actions/thoughts make me (and should for all) make us uncomfortable. We can sympathize to a point, even accept it and understand it because these were the cards that he was dealt, but I don't think it's right to think what he's doing is proper or correct in any way. It's his new life, he's a kid now, let him live... but that doesn't go without judgment. It'll always be a stain he can't wash off.

As for Paul, I'm in the camp that the translation is doing a disservice and confirming with the wikia, without access to the source, is also a mistake. Shouldn't be confirming with the wikia as it is, but since it was brought up, the wikia is misleading. And I'm not saying that Paul didn't do wrong in the past, but it's not as it is painted.
1.) I will say: My "fuck you" towards Ryll only counts if he intended to call me a pedophile/future rapist. If I misunderstood that, I apologize. I guess I'll wait for his reply here ...

2.) Your stance sounds reasonable, I'm glad that not everyone here is scared of thinking about things with a "omg, what would others think about me if they found out ...!"-mindset. So, what did you think about the Usagi no Drop-manga? If you've read it.

3.) Regarding Paul: So do you agree that the intention of what is said in the original is NOT to mean that he raped Lilia? I feel like I'm going crazy when people here are dismissing my translation, when I even give them the full japanese words so they can check up the words on jisho.org themselves if they don't want to believe me. Paul is a scumbag ("scumbag" is a lighthearted word, you wouldn't call an actual rapist that), but there's nothing that says he raped Lilia. And seeing how everyone reacts, it wouldn't make sense.

Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
More good isekai slice of life that doesn't involve questing to save the world. Paul really got himself into it this time- I like how he said it (the baby) was 'probably' his when there were absolutely no other options available. Some fast thinking by Rudy kept his family together, and I like that kind of consideration, as one mistake shouldn't dissolve a functioning family unit like that. If anything, he gave Zenith a way out as she clearly didn't want to toss out Lilia and her child. Arguably, their family is stronger than before, as there is less distance between Rudy and Lilia, and they have overcome a trial; at least that's how I'll look at it...
I guess the issue for Zenith is: How do the 3 of them, Paul, Zenith, Lilia, continue life together from here on out? Zenith only gets to have sex with her husband? Lilia only, because Zenith can't forgive him? Neither of them sleeps with him and he's forced into eternal celibate? Or the "dream", of course: All three are in a full relationship now and he has sex with both of them, maybe even sharing the big bed all together?

That's the issue that really must bog down Zenith, because either way she's losing out here. Either sharing her man with another woman. Or passing her man over to her. Or trusting him that he never again touches her (impossible imo). In the end, going for the "dream" would be the least troublesome solution, and Zenith might discover that lesbian sex is nice, too. But it obviously requires that she gives up a bit of her self-respect. I guess she could get herself a hot butler that she gets to sleep around with, lol.