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    Same here.
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    S2E18

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    So apparently the Man God advised against Rudy going to rescue his mum. I had totally forgotten about this if true, and just assumed Rudy chose to cure his ED.

    Given that the journey was going to take a year, I was expecting Rudy to yolo and ask Nanahoshi to send him over there.

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    I'm glad the plot is going to start moving again.

    Seems like Rudeus is going to miss out on having a cat/dog kid though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Given that the journey was going to take a year, I was expecting Rudy to yolo and ask Nanahoshi to send him over there.
    Right? Or at least go visit her "teleportation expert".

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    I thought her Teleportation Expert was going to be the Dragon God.

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    Btw, has there been any information about their goals on how far they want to adapt the series?

    Like a third and fouth season for example - up to the last novel?
    Would love it if they go all the way and if I'm not mistaken the author plans a sequel as well, but only after this animation adaptation is "finished" and his other "orc-wants-to get his d*ck wet" LN series is done. (so like a decade from now).

    What could "finished" mean here.
    The whole thing? Or just the current season? Because that kinda gave me hope that even more is already planned and not just a "maybe" as of now.

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    Pretty sure with its success it will get fully adapted.
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    With magic being normal, this world really ought to work on better long-range communication.

    Also: Linia would be the correct choice.

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    Aisha: "I want some of that Sylphie love too!"
    Rudy: "Dad would kill me."

    Not, "I don't want to". "I don't want to get in trouble".

    Never change Rudeus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    With magic being normal, this world really ought to work on better long-range communication.
    Hmm, I didn't watch the episode but I'm currently rewatching everything and in season 1 it was stated that 1 out of 20 even have mana and only 1 out of 20 of those is able to learn magic at all.
    And 1 out of 100 from them is actually capable of reaching "advanced" rank in at least one element.

    Thats 25 people out of 1.000.000 that can use magic "somewhat" (still worse) as well as Rudy could when he was 4-5 years old.
    And that doesn't even include the amount of children who never actually learn magic.

    Considering that long range communication and thus mana manipulation over long distances shouldn't be easy, I think it would have way fewer uses than you think in this world, especially as it would be unreasonable to use these very few assets that are mostly specialized in combat magic for "daily use". (they only know combat, summoning and healing magic anyway)


    Overall the access to magic and apparently also their uses for them is not as big as Frieren's.
    Now if you consider the fact that Human-god is saying stuff like "I'm not good with summoning magic, that sounds more like something the Dragon-God would do" (or something like that) you could imagine that magic is not normal at all in this world and even godlike beings are having trouble with stuff that is not their forte.

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    A difficult choice. Rudeus's primary family is now the one he established, not anymore the one he was born in. While one might say Sylphie and the yet-to-be-born child ought to be safe in that academy city, who can really say? The larger story began with with an entire important city getting wiped off from the world. Assuming he made the trip the normal way, his kid could already be over two years old by the time he's back, assuming everything went smoothly. That would be rather cruel considering Rudeus never even got the chance two witness his sisters grow up. But then again, it's a cruel world. If Zenith could be saved with his help, and he didn't go, things would never be the same ever again.

    All in all, Norn better look after Sylphie and not bother her by arguing with Aisha, no matter how much Aisha provoked her.

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    Hitogami saying some honestly suspect shit all of a sudden.

    He generally hasn't steered Rudeus wrong to date, but this time felt different. Like overtly lying by omission. He was encouraging him to stay and impregnate Pursena and/or Linia, which both seem like a horrible idea given their behavior in the last year. It was almost like he wanted Rudeus to settle down and live out his life doing nothing. Like Hitogami already got what he wanted out of Rudeus (whatever that is) and was just kinda...done with him.

    Maybe the new attitude is because Rudeus befriended Nanahoshi? She's a big aberration in the world, and she's making headway on breaking dimensional barriers.

    The hint was that Rudeus would regret leaving, while absolutely refusing to reply what or with what magnitude is very suspect. The obvious regret in going to save Zenith before would be failing to reconnect with Sylphie and resolve his ED funk about Eris. Even further, Rujierd telling Rudeus he probably got Eris' intent wrong. So that part was right. But his alternate advice wasn't very compelling this time.

    So what's the regret now? Miss the birth of his first born? Sure, that's a medium-big regret, but maybe a pretty small regret in the grand scheme of things.

    As much as I kind of disliked Norn, I think she served her purpose here very well. If Rudeus doesn't go, an accomplished mage with some real skill, he'll certainly regret staying behind and making all the others do what he swore to do long ago. Because there really aren't that many people out there as accomplished or versatile as he is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    So what's the regret now? Miss the birth of his first born? Sure, that's a medium-big regret, but maybe a pretty small regret in the grand scheme of things.
    He already told him. Stay and have a kid with one of the beastmen, and that'll be another joy in his life.

    Since he's leaving, the beastman child he could have had won't exist now. A child not being born is a significant regret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    A difficult choice. Rudeus's primary family is now the one he established, not anymore the one he was born in. While one might say Sylphie and the yet-to-be-born child ought to be safe in that academy city, who can really say? The larger story began with with an entire important city getting wiped off from the world. Assuming he made the trip the normal way, his kid could already be over two years old by the time he's back, assuming everything went smoothly. That would be rather cruel considering Rudeus never even got the chance two witness his sisters grow up. But then again, it's a cruel world. If Zenith could be saved with his help, and he didn't go, things would never be the same ever again.

    All in all, Norn better look after Sylphie and not bother her by arguing with Aisha, no matter how much Aisha provoked her.
    I found it a rather easy, if uncomfortable, choice: my mom is in grave danger, I go. Missing the first 2 years of your child is near meaningless for the child, it's more about Sylphie being without Rudy. And between my wife feeling lonely or my mom dying, I know which one to prioritize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I found it a rather easy, if uncomfortable, choice: my mom is in grave danger, I go. Missing the first 2 years of your child is near meaningless for the child, it's more about Sylphie being without Rudy. And between my wife feeling lonely or my mom dying, I know which one to prioritize.
    What guarantees does he have the trip will have any meaning? The letter didn't even come from Paul himself. He could be making a totally useless trip that will end up taking years with no results, yet he would miss the first years of his first child. Worst of all, maybe the game of thrones back in princess Ariel's home country will start to have a heavier effect and Sylphie will get embroiled in it. After all, she's a famous silent magician and princess Ariel's staunch ally. So, it's not altogether impossible Rudeus would make a useless trip, not rescue Zenith, and simply decide to head back in bitterness to cut his losses. Yet when he returns home, he will find Norn and Aisha tending his wife's gravestone. Sure, we, as readers, can probably guess this isn't the kind of story where Rudeus would lose his wife, but Rudeus himself wouldn't know that.

    All that being said, I also think it's the right choice to go, but the more he thought about it, the more factors he would need to worry about there are.

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    We knew that not-going wasn't going to be an option when Elinalise said she'd go on his behalf. She's already doing the bodyguard duty on behalf of Sylphie, so that contradiction wasn't going to solve itself.

    Norn also moved back into the home without much fuss being made about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    He already told him. Stay and have a kid with one of the beastmen, and that'll be another joy in his life.

    Since he's leaving, the beastman child he could have had won't exist now. A child not being born is a significant regret.
    Rudeus doesn't see those two in that way at all, so it wouldn't have happened on its own if he had stayed either. So no, the 'regret' cannot be that.

    He's loyal to Sylphiette and thought Paul was trash for cheating on Zenith. He's consistently refused any hints toward that effect from the two beastgirls. Really wasn't an option that Rudeus would ever consider outside of Hitogami bringing it up, quite obviously so as he immediately refused in the dreamspace.

    It's super suspicious that Hitogami wants Rudeus rooted here in the Academy city and not out adventuring.
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    Since I'm rewatching right now.

    Hitogami said the same thing before Rudeus went to the Academy.
    Although back then he lured him with the cure to his ED.

    But here is the thing:

    Rudeus: "I will regret going to Belgaritt (Zenith)? Why?"
    Hitogami: I can't tell you
    but then Hitogami proceeds to tell him that he can cure his ED if he goes to the academy. That was already fishy back then.
    He can't explain it to him... but then it seems like he actually gives him a reason.
    That's probably not the reason he was actually refering to when he first said that he couldn't provide that information.

    Another thing is that he only showed up after he was about to ignore the Academy invitation to go seek out his mom.
    When he wasn't about to move, he wouldn't show up.
    Even after he got the info from Dragonroad, he didn't show up because Rudeus couldn't start his journey due to the harsh winter.
    Only after he could finally keep traveling is when he showed up. And he showed up to direct him towards the academy.
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