Karakiri, whose head got lopped in half, didn't survive. There were 2 of them, both human, which is why Ushio couldn't sense them. The one who uses the shadow armor is the one who killed Ushio. He had the burn on his hand.
Since all succeeding Karakiris are clones, there really wasn't a rule that they can't create more than one at a time. The one-child shadow rules don't apply to Haine, especially when using the previously unmentioned real pregnancy technique.
Peace.
Kinda makes no sense for the killed Karakiri clone to be so chill about it. They don't share the same mind, only a copy of the original. So that clone did die, for real.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Same can be said for that dumbass doctor who wanted shadow clones of his family to live forever.
Griping aside, I think Karakiri in particular is insane and wants to fulfill Haine's wishes no matter what, including spending multiple lifetimes to do it. Remember, it isn't really a soul transfer but a memory copy that allows the continuation of Karakiri, meaning there are already many individual Karakiris who died for the cause.
Peace.
episode 19:
I wonder how they'll get Ushio back, since I don't believe for one second that she's truly gone. Haine reacted to the shell Shinpei was carrying in his pockets, so maybe that's a remaining piece of her?
Hizuru going to Haine and Karikiri by herself just feels dumb. Honestly, with Ushio gone, their plan ought to be to leave the island and save as many loved ones quietly as possible.
PS: The doujins really write themselves with that end, lol: "Make full use of my body!". Makes me giggle at the thought of what doujin-Ryuunosuke would make her body do, lol.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Well, Ushio is just a piece of Haine, and Ushio's memories have been transferred to Shinpei and the others many times now, so I think they could transfer the memories into Haine or another piece of her to recreate her.
Peace.
Ep 20.
Holy fuck, they are dropping like flies...
It's a small consolation knowing that even if Shinpei didn't loop, Sensei lost the fight anyway, proven by Tokiko having to return barely alive to deliver the news. Now, Shinpei has the physical ability of a shadow from Ryuunosuke, so while they did lose a formidable and critical ally, he himself gained a new weapon.
It looks like a part of Ushio is still alive in that shell. And that part seems powerful enough to scare away Haine twice.
I wonder if in the end, when both of Haine's eyes are together, they can simply go back in time using their full power and kill Shide before this entire mess happened. The main goal now is to convince Haine she is being used by Shide. That part was actually pretty obvious, since Haine's goal is to return home, while Shide's existence relies on her being on Earth. As a human, he can't actually come with her in his current form.
Peace.
Really don't like the "twist" where the monster girl is actually innocent and the adult man who's serving her is the true villain. Haine deserves to be killed, fullstop, don't try to absolve her in anyway.
Given the consequences, I'd hate to be the first one that is killed permanently, lol. "I will loop back to save everyone ... except you, bad luck." It makes kinda sense in the context, but still must feel bad.
The one thing that has been irking me for long, though, is that Shinpei ended up just accepting that Haine put a mark on him that allows her to read his thoughts. Getting rid of the mark should have been #1 priority, even if it meant amputation. It's such an easy mark for the enemy.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Amputation won't work, just like when Haine tried to gouge out Shinpei's eye. The abilities are not physical but conceptual. The eye itself and the marking are just symbolic, not necessary for the effect/function.
Peace.
17-20
Just caught up. Did Ryuunosuke even get created in this loop? I didn't see him standing around out there, so was that a one-off for that loop? I was half expecting the other priest clone to have an equally sinister but different power, but it looks like he was just a body double, after all.Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Sadly, this is one of the most trite things about anime storytelling, and I wish it had been avoided here. "But mankind is the real villain!" is so worn out- I'm cool with a face off against a real, intelligent sentient being who's evil isn't derived from mankind's twisted influence at least one in a while. /rant
Circling back to Ryunnoske, is the implication that Haine made him as a shadow, and, in a fit of sorrow for her best friend (at the time), ejected him instead of fully forming him and he possessed sensei, leading to the dual personalities, but with him existing two seconds in the future? Its been a hot minute since I watched so I'm sure I'm getting the mechanics mixed up, but I especially wobbly on their explanation.
It technically wasn't dual personalities since it is a possession. They are basically two spirits in one body, not one mind split into multiple personalities. The rest sound correct.
Ep 21.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Sat, 09-03-2022 at 09:41 AM.
Peace.
Just realized I havent seen ep 21 and 22, and there's no links o nya. Thx for the link, shinta, do you have ep 22, too?
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
<3
Edit:
Episode 22:
Ignoring the silly Dragon Ball-fighting: SIGH. Can't we do without the trope of feeling some last-second remorse for the villain, thus giving him/her another chance to kill the heroes? Oh man.
Fuck Haine. It can't be said enough. She doesn't deserve a happy end, nor any absolution. Whatever got her in that situation, it doesn't excuse the countless murders she committed. Screw her. I don't want Shinpei and Ushio help her in whatever way.
Also Shinpei is an idiot. The cute, tanned "sister" confesses to him, and he chooses his dead, ugly shadow gf. Sigh.
Speaking of: If somehow shadows won't die after Haine is "defeated", I hope Tokiko's brother at least gets together with shadow Mio. "Your coolheaded attitude is kinda cute", come on, make her fall for you, dude ;> I can kinda see the happy end now, though: Ushio turns Haine "good" or becomes the next Haine, thus allowing shadows to live. That means Tokiko's shadow mom can keep living, too. Now just find a way to revive boob lady.
Btw on the matter of time travel: This story has the same issue most time travel stories have, and it openly admits it: Every time Shinpei jumps back in time, a new timeline is created, leaving an old timeline where things went bad. That basically means that the only one who gets to work towards a good end is Shinpei himself (and shadow Ushio I guess). Everyone else gets screwed over in the failed timelines where Haine wins, and only the friends in the most recent timeline can hope to live through all this. Fucked up when you think about it, that's why writers love to ignore this dilemma.
Last edited by MFauli; Mon, 09-12-2022 at 02:34 PM.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
This is NOT the case for this story. They explicitly said that the moment Shinpei returns, a new timeline is created, but the old timeline is also erased. Meaning, there is only 1 actual timeline, not multiple parallel universes always existing at the same time.
EDIT: This is the actual explanation in episode 21:
Shinpei's power is the ability to observe parallel universes. When he dies, the world is duplicated many times, and only his consciousness can travel to any one of those worlds. Once he does (the part where he wakes up in the "past"), everything that happened in the world he was previously in is gone, as if it never existed. So there are no failure timelines left hanging around.
Episode 23.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Thu, 09-15-2022 at 04:24 PM.
Peace.
Ok, so instead of countless failed timelines, there's countless "murdererd" timeline >_>
Anyway, thx for the link, will watch new episode later.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
The way they said it is that "it would become as if the timeline didn't exist." So it's not murder, but like pulling out to avoid conception in the first place.
Peace.
Episode 23:
As I said before: Not a fan of "the little girl is actually a victim and the adult man is the true villain". Also Ushio is just total Dragon Ball Z now.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
I don't think they see Hiruko as a victim, but they do understand she is a monster and naturally eats other creatures. She does not have and should not be bound by human morals, so judging her for her "sins" is meaningless. If she can be sent home with no further damage to anyone, there would be no need to kill her. She is still the villain because without her, clone Shide wouldn't even exist.
What the story tried to do is separate the human girl personality (Haine) that Hiruko first copied from the monster. The girl that deadboobs befriended was that human personality, not the original creature. Hiruko itself, whether as a separate entity or combined with Haine, is still definitely a monster and killer, regardless of what Shide did or put her up to.
Peace.
Episode 24.
I knew they were gonna go with the reset ending. I just didn't think it was gonna be Ushio-shadow to do it instead of Hiruko. In the end, Hiruko was a selfish beast that just wanted her suffering to end. She never gave a damn about humans. All of that came from Haine, who I guess lived a normal life with Shide in the past this time.
If all the shadows are gone, why is Shinpei even coming back to the island? And Hizuru too? It was supposed to be Ushio's funeral and phone call that brought them back.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Fri, 09-23-2022 at 04:33 PM.
Peace.
I'm more surprised that they are going to spend an entire episode faffing about in the happy ending. The goodbyes said in this episode will be completely undermined with the reset if everything winds up okay in the end, with the entire thing effectively 'had been a dream'.
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