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    At least Kurumi was forced to admit she hacked into DA and broke Radiata to Takina.

    Oddly enough, they also casually tossed in that there are boy orphan assassins, and Chisato has been attacked by them.

    Lycoris/DA being older than the Meiji restoration was a bit of a surprise though. I had been under the assumption that it was much more a recent thing, in response to a ramp up in violence.

    The casual worldbuilding this series does is so well interwoven into its dialogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryll
    Lycoris/DA being older than the Meiji restoration was a bit of a surprise though. I had been under the assumption that it was much more a recent thing, in response to a ramp up in violence.
    Yeah. I didn't think it was so ancient either, but I guess they just mean that the DA are just current Japan's covet peacekeepers/counterterrorism squad. I'm not sure that they necessarily meant the practice of using school girls, or even orphans was as old a practice.

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    Chisato was pretty much dead there. She shouldn't have gotten so close with her gun outstretched like that. That was the exact same lesson she taught Noobitch a few episodes ago. Had she kept her gun on her torso, he couldn't have swatted it away, and he'd have gotten shot up instead of being able to spit blood in her eyes. I'd call that out of character, but even monkeys fall from trees. As long as this doesn't become a pattern, I am ok with it.

    Takina's joyous outburst at the end of the episode made it worth watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post

    Takina's joyous outburst at the end of the episode made it worth watching.
    Yeah man, 100% chore distribution suuuuuuuuuucks.

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    Takina was stupid for falling for Chisato's trick.

    Chisato can dodge bullets by watching the shooter's eyes and hands, of course she can see your RPS hand unfurling from rock.

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    I don't understand how omitting the first motions helps. If Chisato can see your fist before you or her throws the final choice, she can just react anyway. You only change your hand position at the very last moment, after all.
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    "Throw rock first" is a common RPS psychological strat.

    They were saying that Chisato will always go for the tie that first strategy results in, and then use that as the basis to immediately detect an individual's hand differences when they're about to change. She knows what your rock looks like now...or will tell with her super reflexes that you're changing.

    She eliminates the need of ever having to throw rock herself after that very first round, so she will always tie or win thereafter.

    You only have a chance of beating Chisato on the first throw, before she gets a sense of your attire and muscle movements to invoke her own unbeatable strategy.

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    Video is added just so we all have a reference footage, and can all play this back at 0.25x if required.

    But basically they're saying that by analysing your movement, Chisato can tell if you're going to change from your original fist or not.
    She's probably reading something on your final upstroke, as both players are supposed to commit on (at the beginning of) the downstroke.

    If you have your hand behind your back and simply decide to whip it out - Chisato has to choose between 3 options (paper, scissors rock), not just 2 (counter fist, counter not-fist).

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    That's also why Takina rushes the game she wins. She doesn't want to let Chisato see her closed fist for very long and let her develop the sense. We see Chisato calling out the prolonged windup sequence of playing Japanese RPS before Takina immediately cuts in with the rushed Jan-Ken...

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    Oh yeah, forgot to mention.. someone was monitoring / hacking Robota and saved him by playing Chisato's vid.

    Hacking Hacker implies superior skill so you'd think of Walnut, but then Kurumi would have no reason to endanger Chisato to save Roberta. Alan institute is motivated to involve Chisato, but this implies they've got a backup (and ?superior) hacker in their lines.

    Weird.

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    I think Shinji has malware on Robota's machines as a part of their contract arrangement. The same way Shinji had a bomb big enough to blow two entire floors out where Kurumi used to live.

    Unless he's like an ex-boyfriend she still sorta likes/respects (and he didn't know she was Walnut), I don't think Kurumi would save him. He did actively participate in the attempts to kill her in multiple quite gruesome ways.

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    Super interested about the prospect of the boy's division. Lily bell, was it?

    Chisato's near death by the hands of green hair only half worked for me. She has a gentleness that can be exploited, but I didn't take him for the play with your food before you eat it type. Oh well. It gave the other members of her team a chance to shine...

    I suspect robo got hacked by his original client's secretary at that time to save him. She seems like the 'infinitely capable' type.

    If anything, I'm surprised Chisato's hideout(s) doesn't get attacked more regularly if she can list off groups who have tried.

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    She has a gentleness that can be exploited, but I didn't take him for the play with your food before you eat it type. Oh well. It gave the other members of her team a chance to shine...
    The only reason it worked in this scene was because he saw her Alan Institute charm and wanted answers.

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    That's a better answer, then.

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    Episode 7:


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    This series should honestly be taught in screenwriting classes.

    The way the series has set up a trio of clashes between the characters is better executed than a lot of classic film and critically acclaimed novels. The conflicts are so elegantly staged and effortlessly interwoven into narratives in a very natural progression.

    - Chisato and Majima being the obvious one.

    - Kurumi and Robota across this entire season. He notably said there's no one left who can hack into DA, and no one left on this world who can do the things he can't. Because he thinks Walnut is dead by his hand. He'll hack into Radiata, and I'm willing to bet that Kurumi will break into it again to override him.

    - Mika and Shinji disagreeing philosophically about what Chisato's true "talent" really is. Sociopath Shinji believes she is the best of all killers, and Mika has been crafting nonlethal bullets for her before the tower incident and betrayed their agreement to keep his ones with Chisato.

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    The banter scenes are handled very differently than usual in anime. It feels real, especially how they interrupt each other and how the action on the screen keeps going instead of focusing on the characters bantering.
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    I love the classy fanservice in this show.

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    Chisato tying her hair made me rethink my stance on her character.
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    What would anime do if not for the concept of clandestine child training/super soldier programs? Looks like the cat's somewhat out of the bag earlier than expected. I like that an actual effort to identify the villain went down even before he shot up the police station on camera.

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    Episode 8:


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    While the opening half was extremely chaotic, it was remarkably excellent at filling in a lot of little holes in the series. LycoReco does not have unlimited funds (they're underwritten by DA, but they still need to operate correctly). Takina's practicality makes up in surprising gaps in the other three. I almost expected the segment to end in a joke that all their money was disappearing because Mizuki was drinking expensive liquor and wasting it chasing guys. No, it really was Chisato blowing all their money on super-bullets and trashing every place she goes to in her style of confrontation, as opposed to the much more covert ops DA main force.

    Kurumi's age being confirmed to be at least 30 (she probably wasn't lying in the fancy bar). Mizuki and Mika being terrible at managing their cover cafe because they're still a DA Trainer/Commander and a Recon/Analyst from DA. Kurumi masterfully day trading and managing their social profile. Takina controlling Chisato in combat. Takina's witch outfit and Chisato's cosplay. The fact that Takina has gotten much more sociable at their routine jobs at the daycare, the JaLS school (Chisato's thighs...), and then bam tone shift.

    This series is the way it avoids tropes in such a natural way. Though it started as a threat, Majima and Chisato had a very calm discussion, with a coffee, and both learned quite a bit about their benefactor and each other in the process. He even heard Takina with his talent and went out of his way to avoid a direct confrontation. We finally got to see monster Chisato at the tower flashback, and learned why Majima has an equal level of hyper awareness. That does make the RPG thing even worse then, because his eardrums should have ruptured from that.

    The Alan Institute really is fucked up though. They're effectively deciding what someone is best at and forcing them to do it no matter what. Even Shinji's assistant could have been something else if she wanted to, but they imply that Institute certainly made sure she never even explored the idea.

    I guess we'll finally find out what means of compulsion the Institute will try on Chisato, or are the merely taking her heart back?

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