I can't even begin to comprehend why any would need to ban gay marriages. Seperation of Church and State? Thanks GWBush.
BTW Homophobes should go lock themselves in a closet for eternity or at least until they can re-evaluate thair values.
I can't even begin to comprehend why any would need to ban gay marriages. Seperation of Church and State? Thanks GWBush.
BTW Homophobes should go lock themselves in a closet for eternity or at least until they can re-evaluate thair values.
Several Key Points:
The media does have something to do with a recent increase in the gay/bi population, but not the way presented. Recent television shows (past decade) have shown the gay/bi lifestyle as being less taboo and more accepted, sometimes even presented as the norm. You can look at this one of two ways (possibly more). First: Seeing others in the same position as themselves has given people the courage to display their own desires. Second: People like to emulate what they see on TV. I'm sure you can find documented cases of either.
Originally posted by: ComeComeParadise
I can't even begin to comprehend why any would need to ban gay marriages. Seperation of Church and State? Thanks GWBush.
Seperation of Church and State refers to the orginization of the Church specifically, not the morals that it teaches. I wouldn't want to ever have someone lead this country who had no morals. I can understand that I might not agree with every one they have, but that doesn't mean a leader is violating the constitution by having them.
Originally posted by: ComeComeParadise
BTW Homophobes should go lock themselves in a closet for eternity or at least until they can re-evaluate thair values.
Just as those who are gay are uncomfortable with living a straight lifestyle, there are many who are straight who are uncomfortable with gay lifestyles. Those people are commonly identified as "homophobes" and are treated unjustly like crap. That's how racism and similar attitudes begin. Just because you see one gay, black, Jew, or Christian person do something wrong, does not mean you should condemn the entire group. Just because there have been those in the past who hate the gay lifestyle, doesn't mean you should be predgidous against those who are uncomfortable with it.
I don't think when we say 'homophobe' we mean someone who is uncomfortable...more someone who is actually against/disapproves of homosexuality which is different. To be honest though, you've got to be pretty conservative to be really that uncomfortable.
Also I disagree that people necessarily copy what they see in the media...just because someone sees articles about gay people I can't for the life of me see why they would be so weak and fragile-minded to think 'yeah, from now on i'm going to have relationships with members of the same sex because that guy/girl on the news does'. I guess it could potentially make them more willing to try stuff out but I don't think you can become gay just because it is shown in the media.
Those who are gay are uncomfortable with a straight lifestyle? WTF? I don't think you really comprehend homosexuality well if you think that...the fact is they are attracted to members of their own sex as well as/instead of the opposite sex - being uncomfortable doesn't come into it.
And George Bush is a cunt
i really dont care if girls are bisexuals. I mean come on lezbos, are hot enough but if its a bi and a lezbo then i can get in on the action...
A lesbian won't bother with you because she wouldn't like guys,that's why she's a lesbian.But a bi girl,there ment for 3 somes with another girl.I'm still in support of racking up all the bi girls and taking full advantage of their sexuality,it's the man thing to do.C'mon,every guy has wanted to be the guy with two girls in the pron movie.If you get the chance,do it,do it many times,do it until they go completly lesbian,do it for all males across world.Hell,even your daddy would be saying "Go get them!!!!!". or "that's my boy!!".
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Originally posted by: ComeComeParadise
I can't even begin to comprehend why any would need to ban gay marriages. Seperation of Church and State? Thanks GWBush.q]
Studies have found out that gays and lesbians are the biggest consumers of this country because they dont have children, or a spouse to lose money on, so they have more to spend on themselves, Bush recognizes this, and does not wish this giant flow of income to stop, so he could fuel his war for "freedom" P.S. Attractions to male or female are messured by the level of estrogene and/or testastorone in a body, which sends signals to the brain saying that, that is or isn't sexually arrousing. In a way, we all are just creatures bound by body, no personal will what-so-ever
Where did you get this information? It differs greatly from what I learned in my psychology classes.
Also, how can you expect minor consumer shopping to affect major political decisions and be enough to fuel a war?
to bush the most little of money is all to him, also he doesnt onkly use the gay and lesbo taxs as money, just an extra good sourse
Just to question it a little further, wouldn't consumer taxes mainly be taken in the form of sales tax and therefore go to the state, which Bush wouldn't get?
i'm ok with gay people as long as they don't try to "touch" me. in the bad way [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
I don't think most would, especially if they knew you were straight. Would you fancy every woman you ever saw?
I don't think gay is right,geneticlly it doesn't work.Two men don't make a child,sore asses yes,child,no.But whatever,if someone wants to do that crap,just don't bring it around me,I'm not interested.And for bi-sexual girls,they are only good for one thing,threesomes,foursomes,and whatever number you can get if you round up enough of those sluts.
I'd just like to make a few points about the debate. I'd prefer not adding to the idiocy of sex talk.
HAve you ever thought that this world doesn't NEED more humans? Our society has hit carrying capacity, so we are unable to support our obscenely huge population. Homosexuals just practice an effective method of birth control by not having an interest in the opposite gender. I think they should be allowed to marry on that basis alone.Originally posted by: Legendary Nin
I don't think gay is right,geneticlly it doesn't work.Two men don't make a child,sore asses yes,child,no.
However, I cannot say the same for Bisexuals and Polygamists. Bisexuality is different than Homosexuality in that it can result in babies, which is NOT something this world needs, and Polygamists simply become baby factories.
In any case, for other topics: Keep religion out of government, it causes enough harm already without being there, Marriage is an expression of love and commitment, not a religious ceremony, and should be treated as such (therefore, Homosexuals should be allowed to marry, but Bisexuals and Polygamists should not.)
^So I take it your gay,you basiclly just came out of the closest dude.Anyways,people die,if there is a large spike in butt plumbing,then that will eventually result in an underpopulated society.The world is balanced out with murders,diseases,and untimely death.Please look back at history,there is always a wide spread disease that kills tens of thousands of people,or wars that take lives by the millions.Look back at the 1900's through 1950's.A time where population was greatly regulated.Your form of birth control really holds no position.Someone could just say kill off all the gays,there only taking up space and do nothing to further the human race.
I meant homophobe as one who feels hatred towards homosexuals. That is bigotry. I also would like a leader with morals, but you (Poiple Weezard) miss what I am trying to say. Marriage is a religious institution, but the government gives certain legal rights to married couples. By excluding homosexuals from these rights is denying a group of Americans the rights that they deserve.
So, were you saying that in this case the government shouldn't interfere with religious matters? Not the other way around?
I don't even know where to begin...Originally posted by: ComeComeParadise
I meant homophobe as one who feels hatred towards homosexuals. That is bigotry. I also would like a leader with morals, but you (Poiple Weezard) miss what I am trying to say. Marriage is a religious institution, but the government gives certain legal rights to married couples. By excluding homosexuals from these rights is denying a group of Americans the rights that they deserve.
Marriage is not a religious institution. If it was a religious institution then homosexuals would have a far more difficult time getting married than they do now. Many religious groups are among the most vocal supporters of banning same sex marriages. I have been accused of being a homophobe. I don't hate homosexuals, I just don't like them shoving their beliefs in my face. Public places are not appropriate venues to express your love for your partner in my opinion.
I think this topic should be closed now ..
XD It came from a mild observation, but now we're getting a lot of arguments back and forth. I think that the topic of gay marriages / rights and religion are probably two things that are never safe in any forum. Let alone one not dedicated to. ^^*
But, as long as this is open. As far as genetics go, yes, gay marriages don't make sense. This is according to the scientific idea of life; we are here to have children and move on. But, how often do humans adhere to this statement? Almost never. Why should romance be any different?
But - for now, I'm gonna step out of this topic XD~ I'm scared of the flames that are going to start.
Since one person's dropping out, I will too. I usually get involved in arguments and have a hard time telling when I've gone too far. This is a good way to tell.
Two things that should never be discussed in forums, politics and religion. In this thread we've mentioned some of both.
I agree 100% people seems to get to carried away when they discuss these topics. (i know cause i do to)
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