I do disagree with the media thing and such but I do believe environment can often have a role to further develop a person's tendancies, and I guess the media, for better or worse have a role in that, so maybe in a somewhat indirect way they do. But then the media are also affected by the environment [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].

I will always disagree with the more conservative religions on certain such principles (including the concept of sin and hell etc) as I'm a pretty liberal minded person but it doesn't bother me enough to be that much to attack someone too bad for it...unless there is a misinterpretation

For the first quote, it was only partially aimed at you, I was making more of a generic point towards the quite strange 'as long as they don't try to fuck me i don't mind' ethic which I find quite confusing...

Meh, I was probably a bit touchy about it, just your earlier posts included words like wrong and the whole lust thing - the lust thing kinda pissed me off last night because a lot of people see it that way...its something I hear a lot so its always a sensitive area that I sometimes end up reacting to...

Ah well, methinks one of the mods may wanna close this thread at some point seeing as its gone just a touch off in a strange direction [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]. I doubt much more can be said on the matter anyway...