Theory about Itachi's eyes

[Mut]

Originally posted by: BakaShinji
[edit] You have never admitted that you're wrong; you just covering you tracks by freely re-editing your posts. [/edit]
Your favorite word is "assume" "assumption" or some word with ass in it. You just enjoy plastering on this word to anything that remotely requires any inferencement or brain power.

what the fucK? i cover my tracks by freely re-editing my posts? you're stupid, man. since when was the EDIT feature a clear indication for "covering tracks". did you bother to think that there was a quoting error and i needed to fix it? of course not. you're the only person here who doesn't see that what you're saying is nothing but ASSUMPTIONS. i don't know how much more i have to explain this, just RE-READ what i have posted before.

Here are things that you've said that are just stupid in the last thread alone:

"the kyubi chakra had already been mixing since for years before that."
Ok, so you're saying Naruto's pretty blue chakra is not his own but Kyuubi's?
WHAT THE HELL WAS JIRAIYA DOING TEACHING NARUTO TO USE THE RED ONE??

obviously, there still were two different types of chakra; naruto's and kyubi's. but that doesn't mean naruto was able to use it properly even though, the two chakra were gradually getting mixed together.

"this still doesn't prove anything. yeah, it says that kakashi likes to copy stuff, but it doesn't say when exactly he does it. therefore, one can only assume as you've been doing this whole time"
I thought that was the idea of a discussion? To create theories and make arguments. So what's your opinion? Once again you do not have one.

you're an idiot. all i've been saying is "WHY DO YOU KEEP ACTING AS IF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS FACT WHEN IT'S REALLY NOT" but you still can't realize it. i really wonder why.

"this must be correct since you are on the animation team. gotcha."
Ok, if this is not it, please provide a better explanation as to why YOU think they redid the scenes. I invite you to assume/theorize all you want, you have done very little of this type of higher order thinking thus far.

i don't fucking know. i wish i had the actual anime to watch it over again, but i can't. i only have the manga to deal with. maybe the producers wanted to re do the scene cuz they thought it would be cooler, i don't fucking know. why don't you send them a letter.

"you're still saying things as if they are facts when they're really not."
Do you want a disclaimer? Should all posts have a leading disclaimer... "THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT XXX IS TYPING AND ENTIRELY HIS/HER OWN OPINION. PLEASE DO NOT BE CONFUSED WITH FACT, SINCE WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE TRUE FACT IS" This is a discussion thread, get over it. I say what I believe is true, and I do not purport them as fact. Besides semantic or mathematical constructs, there is no fact.

then why don't you change the way you post things? i ask you about proof and you present me some random garbage trying to support your 'thoughts' trying to pass it on as facts. stop.

EDIT:

Ok, maybe these series of events will explain.

3rd Hokage picks the 4th
Orochimaru leaves village in contempt (Kakashi still has normal eyes, from Oro's future statement)
Jutsus are forbidden
4th dies
Naruto Sasuke are 7/8 years old and Uchiha clan is obliterated
___________
Orochimaru meets Kakashi and expresses envy over his new found eye.

Ok, now stick "Kakashi gets new eye" in the best place up there in that list. A suggested answer is underlined. Does it fit there?

yeah, it fits there, but did you ever think that "kakashi gets new eye" could be placed IMMEDIATELY after orochimaru leaves village? or anywhere after that? probably not from the way you think, baka. there are so many differenct scenarios that i can't think of all of them right now, my thoughts are cluttered. maybe, i'll post some later.

[BakaShinji]

"i wish i had the actual anime to watch it over again, but i can't. i only have the manga to deal with. maybe the producers wanted to re do the scene cuz they thought it would be better, i don't fucking know."

well that explains a lot. And I'm here busting my ass checking the anime and manga - while you just go off shotgunning whatever comes to the top of your head from the manga.

Now - I see why you don't believe anything I've said, because you have no way to check anything I've said about the anime. Added scenes, etc.

So why don't you just keep your mouth shut, and check my evidence before blasting off half-witted retorts.

CheCK YO Self Before you WrecK yo Self!

edit: BTW: about "proof". this word should be erased from the dictionary. Sooner or later you'll learn that nothing can be proven. /edit

[Mut]

i don't have the anime to thoroughly examine it but i've watched each episode more than you can count. so why don't YOU keep your mouth shut instead of underestimating my knowledge on it. you should ask yourself, why only YOU are arguing against many people. you can't even fathom the idea what you're saying is wrong and can go the other way.

so many people have jumped on to the 'overanalysis' boat making random, absurd crap out of simple events and happenings. ridiculous.

EDIT: i realize that this thread is on the verge of getting locked due to flaming. so let me say this real quick: i apologize if i came off too harsh, plz forget the hate. but i still stand by my comments.

[BakaShinji]

Times I've admitted I was wrong:

1. Itachi fearing Kakashi copying his moves. My bad, it was Baki
2. Mange Sharingan being a jutsu, Tsukiyomi's the jutsu (according to Elessar)
3. Orochimaru never having done Kage buushin (this is actually true in the manga, checking the raw version as well as the translated version)
4. edit Crescent Dance /edit does have Kage Buushin elements (according to a Naruto stats magazine, I trust the poster's insistence of this evidence, although I have not seen it. - something you should learn to do Mut@t@).

Times you've admitted error:
none so far

Keep thinking you're always right, and never voice your own opinion. It'll get you places.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: BakaShinji
Times I've admitted I was wrong:

1. Itachi fearing Kakashi copying his moves. My bad, it was Baki
2. Mange Sharingan being a jutsu, Tsukiyomi's the jutsu (according to Elessar)
3. Orochimaru never having done Kage buushin (this is actually true in the manga, checking the raw version as well as the translated version)
4. edit Crescent Dance /edit does have Kage Buushin elements (according to a Naruto stats magazine, I trust the poster's insistence of this evidence, although I have not seen it. - something you should learn to do Mut@t@).

Times you've admitted error:
none so far

Keep thinking you're always right, and never voice your own opinion. It'll get you places.

i never said i was always right, i'm just never wrong. there is a difference. if i wanted to say that i was always right, i would've put that in my sig instead. and i don't really care if you were wrong on whatever, that is not important. and there is no place for me to say that i was wrong cuz i never have been in this discussion. i've stuck by one thing: 'do not make your posts sound as if they are facts when they are not.' and as for voicing my opinion. i didn't give my opinion on any of what we've been discussing because i truly don't know. i don't know when kakashi got his eye, if he learned kage bunshin and gate opening from naruto and lee, respectively, or not. i really don't and that's why i didn't voice my opinions. cuz if i have nothing to back up what i say, i don't bother saying it at all. i agree on the fact that what you say is possible, but i'm not ever gonna believe it because it has no concrete evidence to support it enough. just saying that "oh, the animators made kakashi look at naruto with both eye while naruto was doing kage bunshin and that's where kakashi learned kage bunshin" is not enough of a solid evidence to convince anyone, especially me.

that is all.

EDIT: yeah, i was wrong on naruto's rasengan. cmdr_raven corrected me =/

it is kabuto who says it. if someone for whatever reason really wants to see it, i'll post up the page.

[raijin]

Originally posted by: BakaShinji
"i wish i had the actual anime to watch it over again, but i can't. i only have the manga to deal with. maybe the producers wanted to re do the scene cuz they thought it would be better, i don't fucking know."

well that explains a lot. And I'm here busting my ass checking the anime and manga - while you just go off shotgunning whatever comes to the top of your head from the manga.

Now - I see why you don't believe anything I've said, because you have no way to check anything I've said about the anime. Added scenes, etc.

So why don't you just keep your mouth shut, and check my evidence before blasting off half-witted retorts.

Well, as you mentioned in a previous post, this is the Naruto Manga section of the forum. So, it seems right that the manga holds more credibility here.