Iraq War

[SK]

ok here you go chambers.
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[Mut]

chambers is gonna get captured and interrogated by the cia for suspicion of endangerment to the u.s. by calling their book garbage.

[Xollence]

Chambers I already gave you the link to the book. It's on http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/....html#Military

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well ive been in the british army, thats who iam to dispute. the UK couldnt raise a 15m strong army in ten years even with conscription. neither could any other 1st world country for that matter. i dont care what book says it its wrong, its not the number for the standing army and the reserves put together, even that is less than a tenth of what he stated.

Hmmm... that's not true. Germany mobilized 20 milion during World War 2, Japan 9.7 million, and Brits 5.8 million, and the USA 16 million... all in a few years.

[chambers]

iam sorry to break it to you guys, but that figure of 73m is not males serving in the army, its available man power. in other words its males aged 18-20 (maybe slightley older, but 18-20 has traditionally been the call up age for every country) who are not in education, carrying any permannet injuries or have a religion that is against killing people (cristian doesnt count neither does jewish).

if you think your army has 73m in.........well i feel sorry for you.

if thats the same place you got the figures from france and the UK then its the same thing.

and @ xollence you do realise that ww2 had conscription right? we dont have that now. people are a LOT more open minded now than they were then, a lot more people would simply refuse. so i reckon they could probly match the numbers (no way germany could make it to 20m tho) but then they would be totally exahausted.

[Xollence]

We never said we had 73 million serving in the army, we said that it's the size of our military manpower. Big difference.

S-K's first post about this:

Lets check out manpower, US=73,597,731, France and UK combined=24,443,355. hmmm....i guess you could add in more countries to even it, like portugal or something.

No where did we ever say that we had 73 million serving in our army.

[chambers]

yes well its misleading to state that. the US would never get 50m to fight in a war, let alone 70 plus.

[chambers]

yeah theres nothing like sitting at old traford when its a full house hearing 60k plus people shouting 'united' out for a minute.

[chambers]

money thats why.

[chambers]

stoopider you need to think b4 you type.

the UN is crap because the US and the UK MADE it crap by not following its orders, if they wernt important members of the UN sanctions would have been brought agaisnt all countries involved in the invasion and occupation of iraq.
and i dont get your point about the US sounding more trust worthy, do you mean as a replacement for the UN ordo you mean the US would appear more trustworthy if it had international backing? or somthign else?

about the UN wanting to go in. well we now know the reason (WMD) the uk and us used to enter iraq was a complete shower of shit. they didnt not want to go in because it was too dangerous. they didnt want to go in because they had NO REASON to enter the country as the UN has no interest in the price of petrol in the US. (wivh btw is still incredibly cheap!!)

[Xollence]

Ummm gas in the US ain't cheap, the prices are rising like crazy. We didn't invade Iraq for their oil. We already spent much more than that oil is worth.

[Stoopider]

Sorry, let me requote.... I meant 'Trustworthy to the eyes of the Iraqi's'

And about the UN not going in thingy.. I'll find for my backings later. Now it's 2am. Gotta get some sleep. Gnight y'all.

But Your right about US and UK made the UN crap. What happend to all the other countries eh?

[Mut]

dude, in cali, the gas prices is like 2.30.

[SK]

see thats whats funny about some of these guys in europe (no offense talking about a certain few), they claim to know whats going on in the us when they dont know shit. where i live gas is 1.91 right now for regular, in massachusetts its 2.01 regular, if you think thats cheap chambers then your an idiot. (which we already know) its a common misconception that we get oil from the middle east, actually europe does, the us gets the majority of its oil from alaska and south america. the reason gas prices have risen in the us is because venezuela is in civil war right now, among other reasons of course.

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
see thats whats funny about some of these guys in europe (no offense talking about a certain few), they claim to know whats going on in the us when they dont know shit. where i live gas is 1.91 right now for regular, in massachusetts its 2.01 regular, if you think thats cheap chambers then your an idiot. (which we already know) its a common misconception that we get oil from the middle east, actually europe does, the us gets the majority of its oil from alaska and south america. the reason gas prices have risen in the us is because venezuela is in civil war right now, among other reasons of course.

majority of oil from alaska and south america? i hear that most of the US's oil is in texas....maybe alaska too, but definitely texas, and last i checked we, like most other countries, get the VAST MAJORITY of our oil from the middle east. They have more oil there than probably the rest of the world combined

[chambers]

is that a gallon or a litre? AFAIK its by the gallon over there right? we sell ours by the litre, whey do you think your country has so many big as trucks an shit? you wouldnt EVER see a 20yr old over here in a toyota.

price at the garage next to me is 79p per litre, theres abotu 4.5 litres in a gallon so that means that for a gallon of petrol over here it costs us £3.55. so in terms of real money ours is far overpriced compared to yours. now if we translate that to dollars (exchange rate being 1.8 ROUGHLY at the mo) that gives us 6.39. so there you go yours is 2 dollars ours is 6. now tell me how is your expensive? i think you shousl stfu, i lived in america for 18months over the last 3 years, so dont tell me what i 'dont' know about your country. and dont coment on how europeans think they know abotu america, coming form the single most naive and close minded country in the world (and youve just proved it cos EVERYONE in the fuckin world knows US petrol is EXTREMELY cheap)

EDIT: oil is a world economy, if production drops dramatically in one place the price goes up everywhere.

[Stoopider]

Hmm. Recent news says UN is finally going into Iraq. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] Thats good.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/news/7...s_200803.shtml

I was trying to find for Kofi annan's speech after the bombing of the UN building in Iraq last year. And because of that, they wouldn't go in. Security problems.

[chambers]

what s-k no apology?

[SK]

Originally posted by: chambers
what s-k no apology?

for what lol?

[chambers]

if you think thats cheap chambers then your an idiot

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nice sig btw

[Stoopider]

Wow. Never thought oil would be so expensive in the Uk.