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    Good old anime. End Of evangelion

    I've seen End of Eva too many times, so much that I needed to buy Slayers to get myself out of depression.

    Yes, it is a lot like the end of RahXephon, but Eva is a much more depressing restart of the world.
    Spoilers ahead for those who actually haven't seen Eva (not that I believe such people exist).

    To understand it fully: Humanity committed a great sin when they tried to create God by experimenting on Adam, thus the Second Impact occured. Human souls were no longer in great supply after mankind sinned so greatly. So, in a way, humanity had to restart itself, which is the human instrumentality project. The goal is to combine all of humanity into one body, just like the Angels. This body is Rei for those who didn't figure her role out. Seele wishes to combine all of humanity for absolute happiness, and Shinji is the only one who actually seems to be able to do it, because only he can pilot Unit-01. All that fucked up shit with the Eva series happens, and Unit-01 is crucified and Shinji becomes a temporary God. Shinji decides, after finally gaining enough balls to make a decision by himself, that humanity should not be one. Thus, All humanity is liquified except him and Asuka, in essence becoming a new Adam and Eve.

    It is interesting to note that Asuka now has brown eyes instead of her typical blue, I've heard theories that she is now Asuka, Rei, and Misato all in one, which is why she is so digusted in herself.

    That's the whole explanation on my take of The End of Evangelion.

    As for Deus Ex Machina, I may be taking it the wrong way, in the litteral sense, but there is no convenient wrap-up in Eva, excepting Eps 25-26, which I have always taken since the movies came out as a single instant in Shinji's god-like state.

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    Good old anime. End Of evangelion

    Ryllharu, Thanks alot, Ahh, that was the purpose of Rei?, she was a really strange creature... all three in one, where have you heard it, and all the killings in end of evangelion, like ritsuko, ikari and wtf?

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    Good old anime. End Of evangelion

    As for Gendo killing Ritsuko, she was trying a last ditch effort to stop Gendo from ressurecting Yui, or his version of the human instrumentality project. She was trying to destroy the entire NERV complex. He says something that there is no audio for which I can only assume is something like, "I still love you." She tells him he is lying, because he has been trying to ressurect Yui this whole time and then they try to kill each other, and Gendo shoots first. The Gendo/Ritsuko relationship stems from the line that is something like "Like mother, like daughter."

    As for the rumor about Asuka being all three girls combined, I think i first heard it on the commentary with Amanda Winn Lee and others that was on the End of Evangelion DVD. I have seen it on some websites too, but that was some time ago.

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    Good old anime. End Of evangelion

    Seriously what was that big monster that was bigger then the earth, and what do you mean by "shinji was like a god", there's no sence at all...

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    Good old anime. End Of evangelion

    this anime was pointless, i understood everything and it sucked ass, all i like about it is the opening theme song

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    Good old anime. End Of evangelion

    this anime was pointless, i understood everything and it sucked ass, all i like about it is the opening theme song

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    Good old anime. End Of evangelion

    this anime was pointless, i understood everything and it sucked ass, all i like about it is the opening theme song

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    Good old anime. End Of evangelion

    To understand it fully: Humanity committed a great sin when they tried to create God by experimenting on Adam, thus the Second Impact occured. Human souls were no longer in great supply after mankind sinned so greatly. So, in a way, humanity had to restart itself, which is the human instrumentality project. The goal is to combine all of humanity into one body, just like the Angels. This body is Rei for those who didn't figure her role out. Seele wishes to combine all of humanity for absolute happiness, and Shinji is the only one who actually seems to be able to do it, because only he can pilot Unit-01. All that fucked up shit with the Eva series happens, and Unit-01 is crucified and Shinji becomes a temporary God. Shinji decides, after finally gaining enough balls to make a decision by himself, that humanity should not be one. Thus, All humanity is liquified except him and Asuka, in essence becoming a new Adam and Eve.
    actually the Rei is Lilith's soul inhabiting the teenaged clone of shinji's mom (Yui).

    if you watch the series carefully, Shinji didnt actually become a god. It is implied that the soul in control of Unit-01 at the time of third impact was Yui not Shinjii (who was probably reabsorbed into LCL anyway)

    and the goal of the human instrumentality project was not to restart humanity but more of a forced evolution of the species.


    It is interesting to note that Asuka now has brown eyes instead of her typical blue, I've heard theories that she is now Asuka, Rei, and Misato all in one, which is why she is so digusted in herself.
    heh actually my take on that little moment was that when Lillith posed the same choice to the rest of humanity only Asuka took her up on it and the rest of the world was happy in their gestalt existence. She was disgusted because in the end the only person who thought like her was Shinji.


    this anime was pointless, i understood everything and it sucked ass, all i like about it is the opening theme song
    no shit sherlock?
    considering the strong underlying nihilistic message I dont think anyone should have been surprised by that.

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    Good old anime. End Of evangelion

    End of Evangelion is so messed up that basically everyone who sees it can come up with their own take on it.

    As for the Shinji becoming a God part, they say it in the movie, so that's where I'm getting it from. The Human Instrumentality Project's original goal (not Gendo's) was to make a man-made god: Evangelions being the tool to achieve that goal with the angels all destroyed.

    Again, this is just my take on it based on the dialogue in End of Evangelion. It's impossible to be right or wrong about this series and what it means.

    Neon Genesis is a great series, I like the whole show, even the really weird eps 25 and 26. Actually, I'd love to hear anyone else's theories on what they think is going on.

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