Have we the manga readers been dooped?

[Catalyst]

I think the 3 legends all have their strengths and weaknesses. Oro's got the jutsu's, Tsunades got the crazy strength and Jiraiya apart from being good at peeping seems to know some serious uncopyable jutsu's (such as resengan and the wierd toad belly genjutsu)

[PSJ]

just want to throw in some random words. i read to the post where some annoying guy that only writes lines 3-4 words long. who said oroachimaru is no match for itachi. this has been discussed alot in the manga forum so ill just repeat what said in there.

orochimaru thiks to highly of the sharingan. cuase it can copy jutsus orochimaru believes he wont be any mtach to itachi's jutsu library. sure he might also be afraid of the mange sharingan but not so afraid so he dont stand a chance against him. i believe either one of the sannin would have a good chance of beating itachi.

and now to what this post was about originally. thats probaly a translation error maybe they were saying that they cant let naruto to release the kyubi becuase they would die fighting him. cant see anyone else they would die against. it cant be jiraiya since they are 2 S class criminals.

[Stoopider]

S class criminals.. S for Sannin??
I still defend my case!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Also, Sharkface did say the three Sannins make the 10 swordsmen look pathetic. Or something like that. But you maybe right about him releasing his kyuubi. Maybe.

[Kurapica]

I still find it a bit hard to believe that Itachi is stronger than Orichimaru, though Orichimaru said it himself. When Jiraiya and Tsunade were fighting Orichimaru i don't believe they were fighting with all their strength. So Orichimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade should still own everybody introduced so far. They aren't called Sannin for nothing. We shouldn't take it serious when someone gives an estimation of the power of another shinobi. Unless it is proven in actual combat .

[Death BOO Z]

I think they were worried that Jiraya might do a suicide jutsu and take both of them out with him...
their main concern isn't defeating Jiraya, but to get Naruto, and even more than that, they have to stay alive...

so they were probably thinking that it'd be much simpler to take Naruto while Jiraya is away, so they won't run the risk of openning a mass fight...

[Assertn]

didnt they say itachi was also an S-class criminal? i dont think the S means sannin......it prolly means "super", or something engrishy like that

[Raven]

I agree, Legendary Nin. Therefore, I think that we can virtually disregard the anime's themes of "We'd both die against Jiraiya". The manga is a much more reliable source, and it never says it there.

[raijin]

Originally posted by: CmDr_RavEn
I agree, Legendary Nin. Therefore, I think that we can virtually disregard the anime's themes of "We'd both die against Jiraiya". The manga is a much more reliable source, and it never says it there.

Actually, the manga has mentioned it, but the current circulating translated chapter where it is said is somewhat mistranslated.

Although I could do a translation myself from the raw manga, here is the conversation (from the manga) between Itachi and Kisame after their confrontation with the Konoha Jounins translated by AK of Troy (the individual who translated Naruto Volumes 1-12 and is the translator at Toriyama's World):

Kisame - You may be able to keep up with him but I don't know about me...
Kisame - He's on a different level
Itachi - Yeah... Fight him and we either both end up dead or get lucky and get a draw
Itachi - Increasing our numbers likely won't make a difference
Kisame - We finally find him at the ramen place and his bodyguard is one of those "legendary three nins"...
Kisame - Against him, the name of the "Leaf's Uchiha Clan" and the "Mist Seven Shinobi Swordsman" will just be tarnished...
Itachi - Yeah... But...
Itachi - Even the most powerful have a weakness...

[Mut]

wow, that's pretty gay.

*jumps off itachi bandwagon*

lol, just kidding. i still believe that itachi will never lose to anyone he comes across. he might not totally beat them, but never lose!

but anyway... how reliable is ak of troy...?

[Gods_Son]

The translation differences won't be settled until there is a real battle between Itachi and Jiraiya.

[skyro]

TW's (and thus AK of Troy's) translations have I've found to be the best naruto translators thus far. In terms of image quality I've found Inane better (I like their colored pictures heh) but TW has always had the edge on translations in both the manga in anime (this is nearly undisputed within the community I've seen). Too bad they look at quality too much and pretty much disregard speed of release totally. Although I don't really know what source raijin for that text from (from their site in the forums I'm assuming), but it will be interesting to see how Itachi-fans will react to that.

[Assertn]

you cant say that the manga translation will always be more accurate than the anime translation cause both can be mistranslated just the same

[Mut]

this is never gonna end. why couldn't naruto come out in english [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

EDIT: i meant why couldn't kishimoto write it in english. =p

[Stoopider]

Naruto come out in English??

But then we would have to buy them [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

[AznSensation]

Actually, in the manga you'll see that Jiraiya fights Ochimaru by himself, because Tsunamu is fighting with Kabuto. And Jir does win in the end against Och and no arms... It's kind of a tough comparisson actually

[Mut]

Originally posted by: AznSensation
Actually, in the manga you'll see that Jiraiya fights Ochimaru by himself, because Tsunamu is fighting with Kabuto. And Jir does win in the end against Och and no arms... It's kind of a tough comparisson actually

jiraiya doesn't win actually. orochimaru plants jiraiya's ass in the ground.

[Raven]

Uh.... since when are we discussing Jiraiya vs. Oro? I thought it was about Jiraiya vs. Itachi, and what Itachi said.

[MemnochTheCaT]

Need someone who understands japanese *extremely* well to offer more information on this [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Pretend the A/A and other translations never existed, and just tell us what you think Itachi/Kisame said [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[skyro]

I haven't read that part in the manga for a while but wasn't jiraiya when he was fighitng oro still under the effects of the drugs that tsunade put in his sake?

And Memnoch if in fact AK of Troy did translate that text like I said I'm pretty sure it's accurate. Actually if you check out the animesuki forums one of the memebers translated it himself and it is virtually the same.

[MemnochTheCaT]

Lmao cool [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] I've always thought Itachi was = or > Jiraiya, now I have Itachi himself admitting as much [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]