Episode 84 Discussion (SPOILERS)

[Shinoro]

Excellent episode, I'd love to see Itachi's side of the story though as to why he killed his clan off.

Did anyone see how quicly Naruto was able to summon chakra from the Kyuubi? He didn't even have to use all of his natural chakra in order to get it, I was really surprised about that, and stunned no one else picked up on it.

I think what Jiraiya was saying about women, in the fact that they don't know him, is that he figured out that woman was a scam they deployed to Jiraiya to get him away from Naruto so they could come kill Naruto. I think the translation was kind of rough there, but he's basically saying at his age he knows how women really are. I could be wrong there, I need to watch it a couple more times.

But again, great episode, set up 85 really well.

EDIT:
Itachi's character looks awesome during the flashback, especially when he's staring at Sasuke after killing their parents.

[immortality]

good ep..though they could have gotten a little short on the flashback..come on..15 minutes..almost...thats 6 minutes just for the stuff..but still a good episode...too bad naruto got like scared....didnt he ever learn not to listen to strangers...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[SK]

yeah i noticed how fast he summoned kyubi's chakra, it was hard not to, all the red swirling around him...anyway what i think jiraiya meant was he doesnt need to go after women, that women flock to him, but i could be wrong.

[XwingRob]

Originally posted by: Shinoro

Did anyone see how quicly Naruto was able to summon chakra from the Kyuubi? He didn't even have to use all of his natural chakra in order to get it, I was really surprised about that, and stunned no one else picked up on it.

Remember, Naruto and Kyuubis' chakras are merging as time passes. So therefore, it should be easier for Naruto to summon up the Kyuubi chakra.

Edit: I also beleived that whenever Naruto summons Kyubbi's chakra, it accelerates the merging process. Maybe soon in the future Naruto might start experiencing "side-effects" because of it.

[logic]

You don't get the old people part?

.............

3rd.. how old was he?

Older you get, you grow weaker, but you gain techniques and experience.

Knowledge is power, and elders have more of that knowledge from life experiences.

Also, Mut@t@, i'm impressed with the way you can answer questions and what have you based on what the anime has presented so far. I know you've read the manga, but it seems that you never reveal anything that hasn't been shown yet.

Impressed and appreciatory.

[MemnochTheCaT]

The old people part .. where Sasuke's grandparents were just standing there .. is what we were talking about [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] How is executing an old couple a 'test' of power?

[Mae]

Do not underestimate old people!

Come on, how old was the 3rd when he fought? Old just means more experience as a ninja. Also, the only fighting we saw in the flashback was the illusion that Itachi summoned up. I bet things were a little harder for him than THAT.

[MemnochTheCaT]

I'm not underestimating old people lol .. just that MOST of them aren't like the 3rd. Sasuke's grandparents just stood there ... REAL intimidating huh?

[Uchiha Barles]

Heh, I said this earlier, but maybe it's not a test of power so much as it's a test of coldness. It's complete speculation, but it's happened in other stories before that someone would do something like that just to make sure they're capable of it. Might be related to his ultimate goals.

[Mae]

Originally posted by: MemnochTheCaT
I'm not underestimating old people lol .. just that MOST of them aren't like the 3rd. Sasuke's grandparents just stood there ... REAL intimidating huh?

As I said, the scene with Itachi killing his grandparents and the rest of the Uchiha so easily was an illusion that he made up for Sasuke just to torture him, not what actually happened.

We don't know what really happened in his fight. I suspect that everyone was so shocked to see their grandson, nephew, whatever relation come at them with a knife that they weren't really able to fight back decently before being killed.

I agree that instead of a test of physical strength it may have been a test of mental strength, or "coldness" as Barles said. Although killing your entire family just to show what an emotionless badass you are...damn. And I STILL don't know why he let Sasuke live.