Episode 84 Discussion (SPOILERS)

[kyuubi_]

hmm.. i was wondering.. if itachi shows sasuke the images of clearing the entire clan was fake.. coz he's already on a one way road.. and there's no way he could help sasuke to improve.. so he's trying to motivate sasuke ? and by then he'll show the truth that it wasn't him that did it..

i believe that sasuke wasnt the only uchiha kid at that pt of time.. maybe he is.. but if there where.. that means they're killed too.. like that two old couples.. i don't think they can do much too.. but they're killed by itachi too.. so why doesn't itachi kill sasuke ? i believe sasuke can do better than those two..

[DarthEnderX]

Just to throw my 2 cents in, I can think of a couple reasons Itachi may have killed his clan.

1. Maybe it was a requirement to get into the organization he is currently in, or at least, a way to show them he was worthy.

2. Its possible that he jealously guards the power of the Sharingan. By wiping out his clan he insures that nobody else is running around with it, and no new Uchihas are being born with it. Granted, he lets Sasuke live, but he's just one person and he can keep track of him or not as he chooses, not like he can't just go deal with him later if he chooses.

But thats not to say I'm not willing to accept the idea of "testing himself". Nevertheless I also believe, like some others here, that he is not referring to his power, he's referring to his ability to do anything to achieve a goal. Someone else said something to the effect of "I think a ninja would know what he would and would not do" but I disagree. It's like the saying goes, "you never really know what your capable of..." until you have to do it of course. Itachi knows that if he is capable of killing everyone in his family and his entire clan without remorse, then there is truly nothing he won't do to accomplish his goals, whatever they may be.

[Mut]

i think that all of akatsuki members are s-rank criminals and i don't think there is a requirement for it. i think it's just a coincidence. i mean, look at it this way... how are they going to conspire against bunch of villages/countries if you're part of a village?

[DarthEnderX]

Secretely?

[SK]

i think sasuke is itachi's experiment and toy, he's itachi's experiment to show how far hate can motivate someone to become stronger and stronger.

[Mae]

I don't know if what Itachi did to Sasuke was an experiment or what, but at least it looks pretty deliberate. He kills everyone while Sasuke is gone. He waits for Sasuke to come back (we see him sitting on that telephone poll when Sasuke gets back to his neighborhood). After he sees Sasuke he doesn't just take off or attack him, but instead goes back to their parent's home to wait for him and then use his special technique while standing over their parents' bodies.

If he went through all of that trouble it seems like he wanted to accomplish something specific and not that he spared Sasuke because he was weak.

[Luchio]

I think Itachi was in trouble with most of the adult Uchihas and since Sasuke was

A. Maybe the youngest Uchiha,
B. Probably the only one that begged for his life
C. His good little brother

might all be factors why Itachi sparred Sasuke's life. But anyway, whatever his reasons were, Itachi has to live up with the consequences! mouahhahaha!

[Everon]

Originally posted by: DarthEnder
Just to throw my 2 cents in, I can think of a couple reasons Itachi may have killed his clan.

...But thats not to say I'm not willing to accept the idea of "testing himself". Nevertheless I also believe, like some others here, that he is not referring to his power, he's referring to his ability to do anything to achieve a goal. Someone else said something to the effect of "I think a ninja would know what he would and would not do" but I disagree. It's like the saying goes, "you never really know what your capable of..." until you have to do it of course. Itachi knows that if he is capable of killing everyone in his family and his entire clan without remorse, then there is truly nothing he won't do to accomplish his goals, whatever they may be.

That sounds about right. Of course Itachi never really said that he was capable of killing without remorse - maybe he regrets it - but he acts so much like a cold bastard that I doubt there really is any good in him.

[SDShamshel]

It's not beyond the realm of comprehension for Itachi to turn to be not as evil as he seems. After all, Orochimaru is pretty much the only "evil" villain we've encountered so far.

Zabuza is just ruthless, but he turns out to have a soft side, as we see in the end.
Haku, well, you know.
Gaara's just a psycho.
Neji's just a jerk, and possibly not even a villain.

In the end, the plot for one of the main villains of the series so far is not going to be "dur, I killed people so kill me."

[animeniac]

IMO Itachi is guilty of killing his clan, but i dont know why he kept Sasuke alive. Pretty good ep tho.