Yeah, I'm not saying he wants vengence, but if he does, it's lost somewhere within all that feeling sorry for himself. And yeah, he accepts everything you said, but he hates it everyday of his life. And would never stop if he handn't lost to naruto. Ah well, I understand what you're saying, I'm sure you know what I'm trying to say. I'm tired as hell, so I won't be able to give you a good argument at this point. Sorry.