Originally posted by: heero
Originally posted by: Yezsyr
Orochimaru was as strong as he was at his prime, noted by the futility of Jiraiya's and Tsunade's attacks. (Orochimaru fought on par with them without his arms or jutsus, which should destory the notion that Jiraiya's stronger)
Jiraiya couldnt use his chakra at that time because Tsunade gave him some kind of drink remember?
He couldn't use his chakra properly and was still capable of using jutsus. And he must have had some level of chakra control in order to summon Gama Bunta. And messed up chakra compared with no jutsus and no arms.... I would prefer the messed up chakra.