problem is, using rasengan too much burns your hands, unlike chidori (cos it uses way too much chakra anyway). still, with kyuubi, naruto heals it all back in one night [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
problem is, using rasengan too much burns your hands, unlike chidori (cos it uses way too much chakra anyway). still, with kyuubi, naruto heals it all back in one night [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Chidori burns just as well, see episode 84 or 85Originally posted by: Kale Ironfist
problem is, using rasengan too much burns your hands, unlike chidori (cos it uses way too much chakra anyway). still, with kyuubi, naruto heals it all back in one night [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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and Sasuke ca only use 2 (or was it 3) a day. Naruto used dozains of them on a very short timespan
yeah nobody notices sasuke's flesh all ripping from his chidori.....
the only reason naruto's hands were hurting was cause he was performing it constantly for like, a month.....and his hands werent used to it yet either
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yeah, 2 times a day <=> about 1000 times a month
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've never seen Chidori used in a combat situation by anyone besides Sasuke, who's just a stuid, egotistical Gennin, who shouldn't be using it in the fist place. We have however, seen the Rasengan used properly by Jiraya. If you compare Naruto's grasp of the Ransengan as comprable to Sasuke's grasp of the Chidori- then I think it's safe to assume that the Chidori can be a lot more powerful.
Basicly what I'm saying, in a really roundabout way, is that there is no way to compare the two, because we haven't seen Chidori used properly; like we have the Ransengan.
just never speak again.Originally posted by: InnerSakuraChan
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've never seen Chidori used in a combat situation by anyone besides Sasuke, who's just a stuid, egotistical Gennin, who shouldn't be using it in the fist place. We have however, seen the Rasengan used properly by Jiraya. If you compare Naruto's grasp of the Ransengan as comprable to Sasuke's grasp of the Chidori- then I think it's safe to assume that the Chidori can be a lot more powerful.
Basicly what I'm saying, in a really roundabout way, is that there is no way to compare the two, because we haven't seen Chidori used properly; like we have the Ransengan.
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Hey, here's a thought. You know how the fourth is kakashi's sensei? Well, maybe the fourth tried teaching kakashi how to do rasegan like how the Jiraya is teaching naruto how to do it. And kakashi, instead of doing it like the 4th did, chose his own method prob b/c it was to hard to duplicate completely. (i dont think kakashi can copy it w/ sharingan b/c it's not a jutsu, it's chakra control) Or maybe, he just wanted to try new things w/ his sensei's technique. So, that's prob why chidori is more like scattered energy. He can't quite concentrated it. Like the Jiraya said, it took the 4th nearly 3 years to complete. So kakashi did it his style. Naruto is only prob closer to mastering it the way the 4th did b/c he's the main character.
So in argument as to which one is stronger, I'm thinking both are about equal. It's just that rasegan is moe concentrated, I think and chidori is more scattered.
ummmm kakashi vs zabuza would be an example....
there isnt a bloodline to use rasengan. i guess you just need abnormal amounts of chakra or something. maybe thats why naruto learned it so quickly he can mold chakra almost constatly cause he got loads of it(his own) a person that has a normal chakra level might have to do it over a longer period of time. then add kyubis chakra to all this nauto would be able to train the rasengan for a year constantly, and if 2 ppl do the same thing but one of them does it more its likely he will complete it first. and kakashi, tsunade, orochimaru dont know the rasengan cuase it wouldnt be fun if all the characters ran around with the same special move.
why does copy ninja kakashi need to learn something? well for the simple matter that the sharingan can only copy seals and then the user must try to comprehend how much chakra is used. kakashi cant see how the rasengan is working just by watching it with his sharingan. if sharingan was able to copy every little secret and see into someone mind they would rule the world. many jutsus got a trick to do it not just seals and chakra amount. thats why copy ninja kakashi cant learn the rasengan just by watching it. he might be ale to learn it but as i said it wouldnt be fun if all characters got the same special move, besides in kakashis mind the chidori is better since he created it himself and its special made to be used with the sharingan.
taken from ep.7, "sharingan can understand how an opponents technique works, and copy it". your definition doesn't sound very correct.Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
why does copy ninja kakashi need to learn something? well for the simple matter that the sharingan can only copy seals and then the user must try to comprehend how much chakra is used. kakashi cant see how the rasengan is working just by watching it with his sharingan. if sharingan was able to copy every little secret and see into someone mind they would rule the world. many jutsus got a trick to do it not just seals and chakra amount. thats why copy ninja kakashi cant learn the rasengan just by watching it. he might be ale to learn it but as i said it wouldnt be fun if all characters got the same special move, besides in kakashis mind the chidori is better since he created it himself and its special made to be used with the sharingan.
i also don't understand why he would think chidori is any better than rasengan considering that both attacks require the attacker to touch the victim (so they're both close clombat techniques). rasengan is more powerful aswell, as we have seen.
ok, so basicly what you are saying is that the saringan ca nread minds which it cant. jutsus arent just seals and chakra amount, if they can see these 2 they still need to figure out the last part of the jutsu how does it work? if they got the knowledge they can copy jutsus but if they dont they cant. as to why he would think the chidori is better 1) its based on the sharingan, you cant use it without it. 2) its his own jutsu. 3) a man has pride enough to do so. 4) the show would be boring if everyone used the same jutsu all the time.
Actually this is a very gray area about the Sharingan ability.. Sharingan can kinda read minds. It probably confuses the enemy telling you their next move, so it can predict and understand how the jutsu is formed (Zabuza and Kakashi's first fight, Kakashi read his mind and repeated back his words).Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
ok, so basicly what you are saying is that the saringan ca nread minds which it cant. jutsus arent just seals and chakra amount, if they can see these 2 they still need to figure out the last part of the jutsu how does it work? if they got the knowledge they can copy jutsus but if they dont they cant. as to why he would think the chidori is better 1) its based on the sharingan, you cant use it without it. 2) its his own jutsu. 3) a man has pride enough to do so. 4) the show would be boring if everyone used the same jutsu all the time.
I would think Kakashi could look and know how it's done. But it's a question whether can he copy it instantly and use it. I always thought the sharingan enable's a person to understand a jutsu/technique. But to be able to emulate it, is another question. There's where Kakashi is considered a genius.
Also , Kakashi does know really alot of jutsu's. But might not be the best jutsu at his disposal during fights.
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other than using the sharingan to get close enough to the enemy to strike, is there anything else that makes the chidori sharingan dependent? if not, then how exactly is it any different from rasengan?Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
1) its based on the sharingan, you cant use it without it.
yea you need a good brain to be able to use the sharingan to its fullest you need to understand how jutsus work or figure out how they work. so the sharingan can only copy chakra amount and seals the rest is up to the individual. sasuke isnt smart enough to figure out how strong, hard jutsus work but itachi and kakashi might be able to for example. the zabuza thing thats not really just the sharingan its a bit psychology to, if you understand the human mind you can anticipate what person is going to do when they are being pushed like zabuza it would help with sharingan tho to read lip movement and such.
it is diffrent becuase you move at high speed when using it so in order to be able to strike you need to counter your opponent while running towards him. of course it can be used like kakashi did also but since sasuke practiced it running it should be done that way. the rasengan isnt depending on something like that it can be used in diffrent ways, just release all the power you got in your hand and your opponent will blow away even if he is at a distance this can be done if for example your enemy is doing chidori and is running towards you release the chakra when he is myabe 2 meters away from you and he will fly backwards. chidori cant be used in any other way than a thrust. rasengan can. of course this isnt anything the manga or anime has stated but technicly(sp?) it would be able to work that way.
of course you're just hypothesising that rasengan can be used at a distance.
the only times that we have seen the rasengan used properly (ie. jiraiya on the stone chuunin, naruto on kabuto, and where jiraiya and naruto were using it on trees), were performed in the same way as chidori (by that i mean ~physical contact between the bodies).
you can do Rasengan with both hands, therefore, Rasengan wins..
you can do Rasengan from range zero, victory goes to Rasengan...
you can cheat in gamblings with Rasengan, Rasengan scores another point...
you don't reveal to the entire world the fact that you're doing the jutsu with Rasengan, so far, Rasengan has the lead..
conclusion: there's no point argueing, becuase the rasengan is better than the chidori..
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