Very interesting chapter indeed, it makes me believe that Itachi felt he had to slaughter the clan because of all their "corrupt" ambitions/motives. Of course, he spared sasuke cuz he either wanted someone to punish him for his action, or he felt Sasuke could be different from the other clan members.
i explained why he cant "just" be taking orders
itachi has a serious problem with athority as he explains in the chapter following orders for the sake of loyalty to the clan, village, or whatever makes you lose sight of what is really important
if itachi says something like this does that really sound like the type of guy who would be someones lapdog hell no
to me it seems like itachi is rejecting the fate he is bound to as the most powerful uchiha
yes he probably has followed many orders thus far but im sure its not out of respect for his superiors or anything like that he just sees these missions as ways to test himself/bide time to figure out how to escape his fate as the uchiha clan's poster boy
if you are going to accuse me of not having support for my arguement you could at least try reading my posts first
he's taking orders from the higher eschelons of akatsuki. kthx.Originally posted by: onlyelliot
i explained why he cant "just" be taking orders
itachi has a serious problem with athority...
i read your damned post the first time and i read it again a second time and i STILL dont sufficient analysis to support why itachi cannot have a simple motive. i argued before that itachis simplistic reasoning for murdering his family and clan only serves to make him more complex., and i dont buy itachi has a problem with authority...he only problems with the clan.Originally posted by: onlyelliot
i explained why he cant "just" be taking orders
itachi has a serious problem with athority as he explains in the chapter following orders for the sake of loyalty to the clan, village, or whatever makes you lose sight of what is really important
if itachi says something like this does that really sound like the type of guy who would be someones lapdog hell no
to me it seems like itachi is rejecting the fate he is bound to as the most powerful uchiha
yes he probably has followed many orders thus far but im sure its not out of respect for his superiors or anything like that he just sees these missions as ways to test himself/bide time to figure out how to escape his fate as the uchiha clan's poster boy
if you are going to accuse me of not having support for my arguement you could at least try reading my posts first
...now here is the reasoning that something simple can lead to the complexity of a character. itachi doesnt follow the akatsuki because of loyalty, but because he believes what they support (whatever that is). thus itachi has reached kolhbergs 4th stage of moral development where a person follows and/or do certain actions based upon entirely on what they see as right. its the most complex part of moral development that not everybody reaches in life. (if you dont know kolhbergs analysis on moral development...look it up...its interesting) and there is a decent analysis on how the simplicity of itachi killing the clan, and his reasons for following the akatsuki make him more complex...now i gave my argument...wheres yours?
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damn RasenDori we are saying the exact same thing lol
my whole point is that on surface level his actions appear simple but noone seems to wont to look any deeper than that thats where the complexity comes from
I dont think Itachis actions should be taken for their surface value because of the undrlying complexity of his motives
Really i dont know why you are arguing with me when we are both making the same points
maybe i wasnt specific enough in what i was saying sorry but i really agree with what you are saying
oh and btw i dont think Itachi was sugesting that he himself has become arrogent from his strength but was more stating as a concern he has for himself
and yeah Mutata he is taking order but read RasenDori's post for my reasoning of why its more complex than that
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