Originally posted by: Mut@t@
yeah naruto is pretty gay.

i'm waiting for someone to say: "well, naruto using kyubi chakra is same as itachi using sharingan"

even though comparing kyubi chakra to any technique/ability is completely stupid because of the huge differences in what it does, i'm sure someone will manage to do it.
I'll be one of those idiots this time. Naruto's kyubi chakra as he uses it against neji and gaara isn't really unfair. I don't think Naruto heals damage fast enough for it to matter in a fight as he used it those times. What the chakra did do, was increase his speed, strenght, and reflexes (against neji) and allowed him to summon gamabunta (against gaara). Now, putting the gamabunta thing aside for a second, the power up he gets from the kyubi chakra isn't unfair, until he looses control (or gains superior control over it). For example, if Sasuke activates his sharingan, and fights kyubi naruto, I don't think Naruto'll be able to handle him in a purely taijutsu fight. That sharingan's eye of insight (I think that's what lets you not only copy moves, but see an opponents movements, copy them, predict the movements, etc.) is like the ultimate taijutsu enhancer imo. If you have to speed to keep up with your opponent, you've pretty much got them. The sharingan's power is ridiculous, and a match for the kyubi as naruto used it against neji. The second thing that the kyubi chakra does is give him extra chakra to perform moves that his own chakra is simply not enough for. As of right now, the power that chakra gives him elevates him to the power level of those that have doujutsu, and without it, he's at the power level of those who don't have it. Nothing unfair about that...

Notice though, that I was careful to say "as used against neji". The kyubi chakra as used against Haku, now THAT is completely unfair, and a major cheeze. His reflexes at that time were so good, he might as well have had a sharingan twice as powerful as Sasuke's, not to mention the extra speed and strenght which seemed even greater than when he fought against neji, and the "you might as well just stand and die cuz none of your attacks matter to me" healing trick. Yep, at this level, grossly unfair, and likely even unfair later. But, I think that as the ninja master their doujutsus, the power of the doujutsus will increase in such a way as to match Naruto's kyubi powers as he learns to control it even better, for a time that is.

Oh, and the fight against gaara showed that there's a limit to how much chakra Naruto can extract from the kyubi, and summoning gamabunta takes up a big chunk of whatever that limit is (I'm fully aware the episode is called exceeding the limit, but even when he did that, only a little bit, out of desperation came out. If that little bit wasn't enough for him to do something, he would have lost that fight.)

My conclusion: Naruto's current control over the kyubi powers makes him a match for those with sharingan and byakugan, and the powers of each are comparable. However, Naruto's kyubi potential likely far outweights the power potential of either doujutsu. So the kyubi is unfair in a fight, just not when fighting against someone with a bloodline limit, not yet that is.

Personally, I have absolutely no problem with this. Life isn't fair, the bloodline limits aren't fair (you can't decide to be born with one or train for it), the kyubi is even less fair (it's power exceeds that of bloodline limits, probably) and so on. Naruto is an anime that reflects the fact that life isn't fair, and that some people are born shafted, while others get everything. The point is, that in most cases, wherever you begin from, you can make it furthur than your birthright indicates. I'm looking foward to the developments. In this sense, it's almost too bad that Naruto isn't truly coming from behind.