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[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure

do yourself a favor and dont get involved in any series that has more than 50 episodes in it.........k thx

And do yourself a favor by coming up with something more mature than "If you don't like a certain thing, don't watch it." choice.

Sasuke gaining an extra comma. Naruto gaining mountains of power. Makes no fucking difference. It's LAME.

Not to be a dick or anything, but the way you put it, it sounds like you're one of those people who just hate to admit that there are similarities between a good and bad series. Stop being such a fanboy man, damn.

Edit, oh and that henged shuriken was top tier. Nothing Naruto did was ever this cool. If I can see something as crazy as this from Naruto again, this anime would be perfect. But it doesn't, so too bad.

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: Hotsuma

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure

do yourself a favor and dont get involved in any series that has more than 50 episodes in it.........k thx

And do yourself a favor by coming up with something more mature than "If you don't like a certain thing, don't watch it." choice.

Sasuke gaining an extra comma. Naruto gaining mountains of power. Makes no fucking difference. It's LAME.

Not to be a dick or anything, but the way you put it, it sounds like you're one of those people who just hate to admit that there are similarities between a good and bad series. Stop being such a fanboy man, damn.

Edit, oh and that henged shuriken was top tier. Nothing Naruto did was ever this cool. If I can see something as crazy as this from Naruto again, this anime would be perfect. But it doesn't, so too bad.

maturity has nothing to do with it. It's plain and simple....long running series tend to involve stuff like this, and if you cant handle it, then its not our problem, its not kishimoto's problem, its nobody's but your own.

and if you've been paying attention to the last several posts i left here, i was making comparisons between yu yu hakasho and dbz because I KNOW THAT ACTION SERIES RESEMBLE DBZ IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. It's a fact of life...and i have absolutely no problem with it. It's all about the execution, and frankly kishimoto's execution is far different than dbz's.

the problem people like you have.....is something like classical conditioning. You see stuff like energy beams and transformations and planets blowing up (all of these normally being cool action elements)
then you see long drawn out fights, entire episodes of nothing but powering up and repeated animations, and a recurring plot (all of these normally being bad elements), and since they are both in the same show, you associate the two.

therefore whenever you see energy beams, transformations, or planets blowing up, your response is its lame.

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure

Originally posted by: Hotsuma

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure

do yourself a favor and dont get involved in any series that has more than 50 episodes in it.........k thx

And do yourself a favor by coming up with something more mature than "If you don't like a certain thing, don't watch it." choice.

Sasuke gaining an extra comma. Naruto gaining mountains of power. Makes no fucking difference. It's LAME.

Not to be a dick or anything, but the way you put it, it sounds like you're one of those people who just hate to admit that there are similarities between a good and bad series. Stop being such a fanboy man, damn.

Edit, oh and that henged shuriken was top tier. Nothing Naruto did was ever this cool. If I can see something as crazy as this from Naruto again, this anime would be perfect. But it doesn't, so too bad.

maturity has nothing to do with it. It's plain and simple....long running series tend to involve stuff like this, and if you cant handle it, then its not our problem, its not kishimoto's problem, its nobody's but your own.

and if you've been paying attention to the last several posts i left here, i was making comparisons between yu yu hakasho and dbz because I KNOW THAT ACTION SERIES RESEMBLE DBZ IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. It's a fact of life...and i have absolutely no problem with it. It's all about the execution, and frankly kishimoto's execution is far different than dbz's.

You don't have a problem with it. And honestly, I don't care that you don't either. What I think is ridiculous is you trolling me(and anybody else)by saying "If you don't like it, don't read it" when I've said for the umpteenth time that I'm STILL a fan of the series. Disliking something isn't necassarily a problem. It's just a disagreement, one that I can live with. (but I'll still rag on it) Especially for one damn fight. You're making this waaaaaay bigger than it really is. I'm saying it has DBZ elements plastered all over it, and that I dislike it. You're the fool that's taking it like I insulted your fucking religion.

the problem people like you have.....is something like classical conditioning. You see stuff like energy beams and transformations and planets blowing up (all of these normally being cool action elements)
then you see long drawn out fights, entire episodes of nothing but powering up and repeated animations, and a recurring plot (all of these normally being bad elements), and since they are both in the same show, you associate the two.

therefore whenever you see energy beams, transformations, or planets blowing up, your response is its lame.

Uh, no shit. It's kind of hard not to associate the two when they share that many similarities. And yes, it is lame. When you see everything mentioned above, I don't know a word that better describes it. You can preach to me all you want as to why it's happening (Because Naruto is so mad!!!111one), but that won't change a thing.

Do the board a favor. Shut the fuck up and let me think what I want, without trying to drive me away from the series.

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: Hotsuma
You don't have a problem with it. And honestly, I don't care that you don't either. What I think is ridiculous is you trolling me(and anybody else)by saying "If you don't like it, don't read it" when I've said for the umpteenth time that I'm STILL a fan of the series. Disliking something isn't necassarily a problem. It's just a disagreement, one that I can live with. (but I'll still rag on it) Especially for one damn fight. You're making this waaaaaay bigger than it really is. I'm saying it has DBZ elements plastered all over it, and that I dislike it. You're the fool that's taking it like I insulted your fucking religion.

hotsuma, in all honesty i'd have to say the only one who sounds heated up is you. I rather enjoy debates that i have alot to say about. And strange how i bash the anime all the time for pointless things they add or animations that just seem wrong, and then people accuse me of being to hard on it. Then I come here and now apparently the series is my religion. wtf??

All i did in response to you was prove how your anal analagy about something that happened in dbz (something, might i add, which was NOT one of the reasons for it being a bad show) can also be applied to way more series than just naruto. In fact, i wasnt even referring to you when i said "watch something else" in the first place, it was actually towards Rasendori. You know someone's a spazz when they flip out at a single line of a big discussion.

As i've pointed it out many times, MOST long running series like this have these elements. In fact in the future if you find a fighting/action series that will last for a long time, then you should assume you're gonna get pissed about it, and so dont get involved with that series. Naruto starts out as a kid....naruto dreams of being hokage. OBVIOUSLY this means that over the course of the series, naruto will be "leveling up." If you think shuriken tricks alone was gonna make him hokage, then wtf were you thinking?

People tell you to stop watching the series cause nobody on this forum wants to hear your masochistic practices of reading something that you know you're gonna end up hating. In fact i speak for all of us when i say "NOBODY CARES HOW MUCH THIS IS LIKE DBZ"....these arguments have been done many times.

Uh, no shit. It's kind of hard not to associate the two when they share that many similarities. And yes, it is lame. When you see everything mentioned above, I don't know a word that better describes it. You can preach to me all you want as to why it's happening (Because Naruto is so mad!!!111one), but that won't change a thing.

interesting that you act like you understand my point, yet you just accept the fact, and decide to let dbz forever ruin any series that involves action elements that may have already happened in dbz. If you say it won't change a thing, then whats the point in even discussing anything with you? You'll only be using the forum to ventilate your frustrations while the rest of us have to endure it. And yes....i do mean ENDURE it. These chapters are groundbreaking events that will forever affect the rest of the naruto series. Those of us who are enjoying this would like to be able to talk about how awesome this fight is turning out, but instead our excitement is destroyed by all the whining that is going on in this forum. It really does take away from the experience when people bitch all the time.


Mage: someday you'll learn that arguments arent a luxury only enjoyed by the youth.

[originalkrn]

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i love to see when people "flame" each other on a network forum. Just please do it on topic.


anyway,
i thought DBZ was a cool series. Not a Great series (which would actually include logic, a good storyline, good character development, and a monster soundtrack), but nonetheless a very entertaining series to watch. If you weren't in awe from Goku turning SSJ ON Freeza and its all like "AAHHHH!!!!", then yeah, watever. I just thought it was COOL to finally have that sunbitch freeza on his ASS screaming for his life.

And yes, naruto has many similarities as DBZ which makes it a COOL series. But what makes it a far BETTER series (in comparison to DBZ) is that it actually has a good storyline, logic, good character development, and a ...decent soundtrack.



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o yeah btw, i didnt read the entire thread cuz its.. pretty long.. so im not adding anything useful to the "discussion" if there was actually something going on. Here is my 2 cents: i thought freakin 230 was AWESOME! OMG. After i read that i was in awe. Not only in naruto's physconess, but also from Sasuke's power. I think it will be a tie. I really dont want either to win because 1. If sasuke wins, the whole goal of Naruto's promise to Sakura and Sasuke will not be fulfilled and 2. if naruto wins, sasuke will only become even more of a bitch and run away again anyway to Oro and maybe waste ANOTHER YEAR of our lives catching up to him. Kakashi has to play a VERY important role in this fight at the end since kishimoto gave us the honor by showing nearly a whole chapter of him jumping after them and probably even Kabuto, which would end up as an awesome fight. FUTURE APPEARANCES? : 1. Kakashi 2. Kabuto
3. Itachi 4. Jiraiya

[viciousHyuuga]

according to this chap it safe to say that, sasuke has relized that the curse seal is holding him back. true

[Elessar]

"You are someone who knows the same pain of loneliness that I do. And.. that pain makes a person stronger. Because of that, by severing these bonds... I will gain even more strength."

I was expecting Sasuke to win and join Oro - but after that sentence I don't think that option is valid anymore. Sasuke will, just like Gaara, learn that fighting for someone is better than fighting for yourself. Maybe he will beat Naruto and then be caught off-guard by Gaara or will have to face all the survivors of the expedition team + sand in a group fight when they fight for Naruto - and his very own sake. But what is imho certain is that by the end of this fight, Sasuke will have understood just like Neji and Gaara did.

[Hotsuma]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure

Originally posted by: Hotsuma
You don't have a problem with it. And honestly, I don't care that you don't either. What I think is ridiculous is you trolling me(and anybody else)by saying "If you don't like it, don't read it" when I've said for the umpteenth time that I'm STILL a fan of the series. Disliking something isn't necassarily a problem. It's just a disagreement, one that I can live with. (but I'll still rag on it) Especially for one damn fight. You're making this waaaaaay bigger than it really is. I'm saying it has DBZ elements plastered all over it, and that I dislike it. You're the fool that's taking it like I insulted your fucking religion.

hotsuma, in all honesty i'd have to say the only one who sounds heated up is you. I rather enjoy debates that i have alot to say about. And strange how i bash the anime all the time for pointless things they add or animations that just seem wrong, and then people accuse me of being to hard on it. Then I come here and now apparently the series is my religion. wtf??

All i did in response to you was prove how your anal analagy about something that happened in dbz (something, might i add, which was NOT one of the reasons for it being a bad show) can also be applied to way more series than just naruto. In fact, i wasnt even referring to you when i said "watch something else" in the first place, it was actually towards Rasendori. You know someone's a spazz when they flip out at a single line of a big discussion.

As i've pointed it out many times, MOST long running series like this have these elements. In fact in the future if you find a fighting/action series that will last for a long time, then you should assume you're gonna get pissed about it, and so dont get involved with that series. Naruto starts out as a kid....naruto dreams of being hokage. OBVIOUSLY this means that over the course of the series, naruto will be "leveling up." If you think shuriken tricks alone was gonna make him hokage, then wtf were you thinking?

People tell you to stop watching the series cause nobody on this forum wants to hear your masochistic practices of reading something that you know you're gonna end up hating. In fact i speak for all of us when i say "NOBODY CARES HOW MUCH THIS IS LIKE DBZ"....these arguments have been done many times.

Uh, no shit. It's kind of hard not to associate the two when they share that many similarities. And yes, it is lame. When you see everything mentioned above, I don't know a word that better describes it. You can preach to me all you want as to why it's happening (Because Naruto is so mad!!!111one), but that won't change a thing.

interesting that you act like you understand my point, yet you just accept the fact, and decide to let dbz forever ruin any series that involves action elements that may have already happened in dbz. If you say it won't change a thing, then whats the point in even discussing anything with you? You'll only be using the forum to ventilate your frustrations while the rest of us have to endure it. And yes....i do mean ENDURE it. These chapters are groundbreaking events that will forever affect the rest of the naruto series. Those of us who are enjoying this would like to be able to talk about how awesome this fight is turning out, but instead our excitement is destroyed by all the whining that is going on in this forum. It really does take away from the experience when people bitch all the time.


Mage: someday you'll learn that arguments arent a luxury only enjoyed by the youth.

Sorry, man. I was in a pretty SHITTY mood last night after watching Resident Evil Apocolypse. (Do not watch if you're a real RE fan.) Anyways.

the point I'm trying to come across is that whenever I do say Naruto, or ANY given show that has good fights has DBZ elements, people really do act like I just shot one of their own kids. It's sad, but they live in this little world where everything in Naruto is perfect, and every fight is completely original. And then when people call the similarity, act like it's not real, or justifiable with excuses. "Naruto is mad! He's passionate about his friends..etc etc DBZ isn't like that at all!" I don't care, because that doesn't change the fact that it's still there.

What I'm saying is "I dislike this fight, and think it would be better if Naruto did... instead." If you're going to just sit there and enjoy everything that's being fed to you, then fine. Blindly enjoy a series. Nothing wrong with that. Other people have their own ideas of how things could have been done better. Is that reason enough for them to hate the series? No. It just means it's an opinion differing from Kishimotos. And it certainly isn't enough to warrant the "Don't watch, if you don't agree with it!" attitude that people here always cop.

And I agree. Nobody really does care if it has DBZ elements. It's shitty, but hopefully only this fight. It's dumbshits that try to justify and say its ok, that I think are fucktards. I want better, though.

DBZ elements did ruin this fight, so far. MAINLY, the process they were going through (lose, come back stronger) The fights, OTOH, were pretty fun, because unlike DBZ, they're still mortal.

Back on topic..

Finally.. Naruto gaining strength through a fox, allows him to become closer to Hokage? I don't think so. I think, ultimately, he'll try to become a great ninja, without having to use so much force. The hokages weren't hokages just through sheer strength. It's their SKILL that made them as good as they were.

Anyways.. SOrry again. I was fucking sour after Anderson messed up Resident Evil 2. Had to take it out on somefin. No hard feelings, hopefully. None here anyways.