I know, but as I said I would read it as 2x19. It is a curious quirk of mine. If I were solving the problem in my head I wouldn't have the problem but reading it. I would just read it as 2x19. Ha, this is funny that is an idiosyncrasy I have not had to explain since elementary school, really. No worries Buff I can do math, my mother wanted me to be a math major after all but I had other ideas.