Shippou-sama: i liked your team but instead of sasuke you throw in naruto,
he can summon, got kage bunshin and also has rasengan.
shikamaru to come up with strategies and such. neji for his insight, taijutsu and byakugen, kaiten, and naruto with his kage bunshin can create more then the group and if things get into big trouble he has gamabunta.
My only concern is that Naruto doesn't really work well with others, and would fairly adequately muck up Shikamaru's plans. Also, a flaw for Shikamaru is that he may or may not be willing to actually come up with tactics, since he tends to let others take over, and only acts when he has no other choice. Regardless of teammates, Naruto will always try to take command, thus Shikamaru may not get the chance.
I do see the advantages of having him in the group, with a more useful variety of jutsus. Part of his usefulness comes only from the dreaded "in a tight spot" (frog boss). This is another thing to try and avoid, as it massively unbalances any characters performance. Remember, we want to find a team to handle all their missions well, which includes everything in the range of picking trash out of a river to eliminating an enemy from another village.
And, as I've said, my team is far from perfect, I realize. =P
Shikamaru, Neji, Sasuke
and gai (cos wherever gai is rock lee isnt too far away)
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its like buy one get one free [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
jounin - tsunade-sama
genin - gaara naruto sasuke
Tsunade for healing (not that any of these badboys will get hurt) also shes kick ass and powerful.
Gaara pwns j00. and its got shukaku to eat u alive
Naruto has immense amounts of chakra. Can be used very well and hes got gamabunta.
Who needs lee-kun? Sasuke-chan beat weights-off-lee's speed in 1 month. Plus hes got sharingan, uchiha blood, and sexxy hair.
I dont need no "plan making" from shika shika. My team sees you, you die.
Spoiler Removed- MODOriginally Posted by boy george
so the new team would have to be
Tsunade - as leader because as the stated healing and bein super strong
Naruto - even tho we all pretty much see him as bein useless he gets the job done
Saskue - all i have to say is sharingan
rock-lee - even tho u said saskue could match his speed.. i dnt thing he could keep up wit lee with his gates opend
Please keep in mind where this is guys if this continues to have spoilers I'll move it - MOD
Last edited by Deadfire; Thu, 07-13-2006 at 06:53 PM.
level 2 curse seal + sexxiness > gates + super self damage effect after gates used
sasuke's steroids are better than lee's
I don't know why people group Tsunade with Gaara. Why do you need healing when you have perfect defense?
Why put Kakashi and Sasuke together? Why the heck would you need Sasuke if you have Kakashi?
Rock Lee - Lack of any ninjutsu or genjutsu is a liability. Why would you pick him over Neji, Naruto, or Sasuke?
Why would anyone pick Hinata over Neji?
Shikamaru - First off, he's a CHUNIN so he should never be mentioned. 2nd, even though he's my favorite character he has no place on a "Perfect" team. His intelligence and strategy are a plus, but his lack of taijutsu is a major fault. The guy can't fight worth beans. His main Ninjutsu has a huge handicap as well. By his own admission, he's not a very good ninja.
Here's the perfect team:
Jiraya - Brute force, vast knowledge and techniques
Neji - Scouting, close combat
Gaara - Defense, long range combat
Ino - Espionage and infiltration
Jiraya is a much better choice for brute force than Naruto. He can call Gama and use Rasengan. He has defensive capabilities with his hair. He knows almost everything. He can fully use his Chakra unlike Naruto who only can call on Kyubii when he's half-dead or pissed off.
Neji has Byakugan which is superior to Sharingan. Sharingan isn't needed because this team has great defense from everyone except Ino and Jiraya can sense Genjutsu and Neji can see through it. Jiraya also knows so many techniques and is so powerful he doesn't have to copy. Neji is also a great close range fighter.
Gaara can provide defense for the entire team and long range attacks. He also never sleeps, so he can keep watch while the others sleep. His defense will be of great help to Ino who is helpless while using her most powerful technique.
Ino is very underrated. She can possess people. No need for Henge. She can possess the real thing and infiltrate anything. With training from Jiraya she can learn to use the techniques and abilities of the people she possesses and fight with them while Gaara protects her body in a sand coffin.
The only thing this team lacks is speed, but it's not really needed and can be made up for by Ino possessing someone. It has scouting, intelligence, espionage and infiltration, brute force, long and short range offense, and perfect defense.
Genjutsu: Jiraya, Ino
Taijutsu: Jiraya, Neji
Ninjutsu: Jiraya, Gaara
All 4 are intelligent and with their combined techniques they can put together destructive attacks and deadly traps.
Can anyone think of a better team under the 1 Jounin + 3 Genin guidelines? I THINK NOT!
Last edited by JaySee; Thu, 07-13-2006 at 10:23 PM.
Not sure if it's been dicussed, but does Jiraiya count as a Jounin in a 1 Jounin/3 genin team? Isn't a Sannin a little higher up the food chain than a Jounin?
(I put "..." between each spot I removed, to shorten the quote)
True, this team is very powerful. Also true, this team is well made. Although, we have to think within the world of Naruto, if we are actually going to use Naruto characters.
I will start from the first listed character and end with the last.
Jiraya is a brute force, although, he comes with his own downsides. In battle, or in very serious situations, he may prevail without any "adult" misbehaviour. Otherwise, he will sidetrack as soon as possible at any time to, shall we say "get busy 'n hammered"? With the team knowing he is prone to doing such things, his status as leader would be diminished in the eyes of Gaara, Neji, and Ino (he would be harder to trust, listen to, take orders from, etc.) To sum Jiraya up: On the spot, he is one of the greatest ninjas; Unfortunately, to say he is well rounded would be a dangerous falsity.
Neji is a definite contributing factor to any team. His sight ability is very important, he can listen to orders (or give them if he needs to), he is adept in hand-to-hand combat, and he has techniques unique to his own clan.
Gaara is probably required in any team. His weaknesses are outweighed by his strengths one million fold.
Ino is an iffy member for the team. Infiltration is her definite strength, but this only takes the team so far. When she tries to take over strong-minded characters, she generally fails (or has very little time). Her mind control technique is also time-consuming (to activate) and is often inaccurate (and unreliable), and has extreme reprocutions if failed. I don't exactly know what to say about Ino, but in my oppinion, she is not adept in her field (and is still learning).
Accidental triple post. Yes, I understand... No worries, won't happen again.
Last edited by Canadian; Mon, 07-24-2006 at 02:12 AM.
Naruto worked fine with Shikamaru during the Sasuke retrieval arc.
But anyway, my team would be a "paralysis" team.
Shikamaru
Ino
Neji
Shikamaru for tactics and shadow binding opponents.
Ino for Mind Controlling and neutralizing whoever they scout to be the strongest opponent in the opposing group.
Neji to finish the job by shutting down all the enemy Chakra points.
As for the Jounin, I guess it would be Kakashi for the Sharinan. He can play mind tricks on the enemy and cause paralysis that way.
capsule: id like to say nice work, that team does sound pretty powerful. although i think i see a flaw. What if there was a large amount of enemies? Im sure neji can take them, because he has very good offense/defense, but he doesnt exactly have an arsenal of jutsu to defend teamates. Kakashi could, but lets say there was atleast 1 jounin, he would take kakashi's attention while the genin/whatever-rank-they-may-be would have a perfect opportunity to attack ino/shika seeing how they arent very taijutsu-skilled.
Yukimura/Rival teams: I do remember naruto's entrance to demon ice mirrors, but naruto did make up for it in the shadow-shuriken technique. Although it did take sasuke's participation, it was naruto's plan and he couldve used any strong ninja who can use large projectiles to participate instead. But the main thing I want to say is I think (not sure) that almost a year has gone by in the naruto series since that moment? idk if it was almost a year but I do know that over the time, naruto has developed a lot. You hear kakashi/jiraya say it all the time.
When naruto rushed off to find sasuke before the team even left, that was because he very eager to get sasuke, and he wasnt exactly in the serious mood. When he is in the right mood and has somebody who he respects giving orders, he will follow them. He might not be the best team player, but he can be the team's trump card. The saying goes, "Never show your trump card until the end" right? Well the end is usually when naruto gets angry, and will be forced to reveal his trump card no sooner. And yes, i believe every team should have a trump card. Am I wrong?
P.S. Yukimura: As you were bored so you wrote that long comment, I too was bored so I changed around some words i.e. "rojo (red)" and "der (the)".
Just a thought (to anyone, really): Maybe people should create their perfect team and tell us what the team's specialty would be (like, they would be called as a team to do specific missions). So people could create a specific "perfect" team, or a general "perfect" team (general being the "perfect" team for taking on the widest range of missions).
Still, I'd have to say... if there were a large amount of enemies, in the world of Naruto, those enemies are generally not so strong. If there were say, three strong enemies, I can see his "paralysis" team working well... or against a large group of not-so-strong enemies.
My idea of the "perfect" team in general is:
Kakashi
Garaa
Lee
Neji
My idea of a "brute force" team would be:
Jiraiya
Gaara
Naruto
Neji
Last edited by Canadian; Thu, 07-20-2006 at 10:46 PM.
capsule's team wouldnt work even against a bunch of not-so-strong enemies if there was atleast 1 kakashi-level nin in the group. Ino and shika cant handle even lowest genin in taijutsu. Their specialties are mind tricks, not fighting. Neji cant defend them and himself at the same time.
Do you have to argue against everything? I mean, even if it's more right than what you have to say, you still have to argue?
Anyways, I'm not going to get into this "perfect" team stuff anymore. Like it was said before, this could easily turn into a flame war.
Huh?
Ino and Shika can handle most genins. In fact their special abilities are the most powerful in the storyline for ninjas in their class.
Ino can basically take your monster hitters like Gaara or Naruto or Sasuke just by mind controlling them. This is all theory, it goes on the assumption that she can successfully hold a mind controll for a reasonable amount of time on an opponent even with several times her chakra.
Shika, using his divserionary tactics can get the rest of the opponents in a shadow bind, stripping them of their defenses and mobility, allowing Neji to finish them off by shutting down all their chakra flow.
As a saying, restricting mobility is 80% of victory.
Kakashi, my jounin in the group will handle the other jounin. I doubt any of the gennins' tricks will work on a jounin class ninja, as they will probably just use brute force to get out of it.
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