One Piece Episode 446

[Archangel]

Luffy hasn't beaten a real villain on his own since Lucci. The defeat of Moria was far from convincing.

How is that? A brutally battered Luffy still managed to beat Moria's Shadow Asgard with relative ease

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How is that? A brutally battered Luffy still managed to beat Moria's Shadow Asgard with relative ease

My personal opinion is that Moria screwed up with the Shadow Asgard. He let the emotions get the better of him and sucked in too many shadows.

Edit: Also the Moria battle involved teamwork from the strawhats, in contrast to the Lucci and Enel battles. It doesn't count for Luffy as beating someone 'on his own'.

[Archangel]

My personal opinion is that Moria screwed up with the Shadow Asgard. He let the emotions get the better of him and sucked in too many shadows.

Edit: Also the Moria battle involved teamwork from the strawhats, in contrast to the Lucci and Enel battles. It doesn't count for Luffy as beating someone 'on his own'.

Getting too fuul of himself was his own mistake, being an idiot counts as a power down as much as any other factor

They used teamwork against Oz, not against Moria. Moria was beaten by an already shadow discharged, twice geared and insanely beaten down Luffy

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They used teamwork against Oz, not against Moria. Moria was beaten by an already shadow discharged, twice geared and insanely beaten down Luffy

Moria's battle WAS from the inside of Oz. Once Oz was defeated, there was only Shadow Asgard and the knockout punch. At this point Moria had already sustained heavy damage from nightmare Luffy's assault on Oz.

I am not saying Moria deserved to win that battle. He had it coming for being an idiot and underestimating Luffy. I just don't think it was the same as the single handed ass whooping Luffy delivered to Lucci, Enel (Ok in this case, Luffy had the advantage on a technicality, but he still handled the situation on his own) and Crocodile.