Naruto Shippuuden Episode 167

[kmkze04]

Well everyone's right about the bad animation at the start. What I meant more was that once the intense scenes towards the end started kicking in, I forgot all about the bad animation before it and got drawn into the scene. If I had only watched the first section, I'd be crying in Pain of my own.

Except for the railroad spike Pain getting hammered in. That was glory.

[DarthEnderX]

The style didn't show extreme emotion at all though.

In fact, even moreso than the Loony Tunes comparison, the first thing that came to mind watching the Kyuubi in the first part was Luffy's 3rd Gear. The way he kept ballooning up all over the place.

It's like, the Kyuubi is supposed to look all sleek and angular. Not all puffy and rounded off. There were scenes where it looked like they drew him with mouse ears...

Except for the railroad spike Pain getting hammered in. That was glory.

The part that made me lol was right after that. When Pain's head is poking out of the ground going, "Do you hate me?"

[arondruiz]

Well everyone's right about the bad animation at the start. What I meant more was that once the intense scenes towards the end started kicking in, I forgot all about the bad animation before it and got drawn into the scene. If I had only watched the first section, I'd be crying in Pain of my own.

Except for the railroad spike Pain getting hammered in. That was glory.

The super high-speed motion scenes are drawn like that on purpose. It isn't "bad animation", the style is just hit or miss for people. It's something you either love or hate. The entire episode was done by very high profile animators. I dare you to find one badly drawn scene in the episode that isn't a high speed motion shot.

[Buffalobiian]

I dare you to find one badly drawn scene in the episode that isn't a high speed motion shot.

[LunaticCat]

Originally Posted by arondruiz
I dare you to find one badly drawn scene in the episode that isn't a high speed motion shot.

Yeah, that one;or Nagato bleeding out of his nose....

[Mugen]

The super high-speed motion scenes are drawn like that on purpose. It isn't "bad animation", the style is just hit or miss for people. It's something you either love or hate. The entire episode was done by very high profile animators. I dare you to find one badly drawn scene in the episode that isn't a high speed motion shot.

the style was animated badly. it's not like this is the first time ever that "super high-speed motion scenes" were animated.

[The Heretic Azazel]

The super high-speed motion scenes are drawn like that on purpose. It isn't "bad animation", the style is just hit or miss for people. It's something you either love or hate. The entire episode was done by very high profile animators. I dare you to find one badly drawn scene in the episode that isn't a high speed motion shot.

This.

I really, really enjoyed the animation. Apart from the roadrunner legs, which was pretty terrible, I think most everything had its place. Sure, it was super over the top, but it's such a welcome change of pace as far as I'm concerned. I even like that picture of Pein, it's just such a total mindfuck considering the emotionless bastard we know and love.

This style isn't always pretty. It's very fluid, but its randomness is not something everyone appreciates. It is something done to capture attention and it's in the same vein as the eternal anime staple of the distorted face/blank eyes/exaggerated expression, just on a more realistic scale. I guess I just like all that crazy shit, I did enjoy Kaiba.

I feel differently as it relates to the story. As stated, things weren't at this level of chaos in the manga, so Tendo wasn't catching death blows on a regular basis. It makes no sense for Tendo to survive all that after the other Paths of Pein were dispatched with a fraction of the effort. They are just corpses, after all. Tendo getting hammered into the ground was cool, and another thing I thought was really funny was Tendo going Bruce Lee on the Kyuubi's rock projectiles (2:48).

[Archangel]

This.

I really, really enjoyed the animation. Apart from the roadrunner legs, which was pretty terrible, I think most everything had its place. Sure, it was super over the top, but it's such a welcome change of pace as far as I'm concerned. I even like that picture of Pein, it's just such a total mindfuck considering the emotionless bastard we know and love.

This style isn't always pretty. It's very fluid, but its randomness is not something everyone appreciates. It is something done to capture attention and it's in the same vein as the eternal anime staple of the distorted face/blank eyes/exaggerated expression, just on a more realistic scale. I guess I just like all that crazy shit, I did enjoy Kaiba.

I feel differently as it relates to the story. As stated, things weren't at this level of chaos in the manga, so Tendo wasn't catching death blows on a regular basis. It makes no sense for Tendo to survive all that after the other Paths of Pein were dispatched with a fraction of the effort. They are just corpses, after all. Tendo getting hammered into the ground was cool, and another thing I thought was really funny was Tendo going Bruce Lee on the Kyuubi's rock projectiles (2:48).

You say all this because you read the manga so all this came unexpectedly and fun to watch, imagine what sort of mindfuck this imposes on someone who's just following the anime

[DarthEnderX]

The super high-speed motion scenes are drawn like that on purpose. It isn't "bad animation", the style is just hit or miss for people. It's something you either love or hate.

That's bullshit because I absolutely loved the exact same style being used in fights like Oro vs. 3rd and Naruto vs. Sasuke 2. This episode was just straight up done shitty. It's like I said before, it's as if nobody told them they were going way over the top.

And not just the way they animated it, God Realm's Force Push is now a force field too against the Kyuubi's pew pew lasers and spewing fire.

I know right! Way to COMPLETELY ignore all of the stuff that was established previously. I mean, it was like a major plot point that entire episodes were hung on that the push has to be recharged after each use, so that rapid fire attacks are like his weakness. But then we have him using his Push as a forcefield against the Kyuubi's gatling fireballs.

[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

I know right! Way to COMPLETELY ignore all of the stuff that was established previously. I mean, it was like a major plot point that entire episodes were hung on that the push has to be recharged after each use, so that rapid fire attacks are like his weakness. But then we have him using his Push as a forcefield against the Kyuubi's gatling fireballs.

It wasn't that big a stretch if you think about it. If you don't think much about it then it seems out of place from what just happened episodes earlier, sure. I'm gonna assume that when there's only one Pain left standing he becomes substantially stronger since Nagato can focus all the chakra to him. I'll also assume YahikoPain would be the strongest and most resilient of the bunch to begin with just from the emotional attachment of the body. While we did see the other Pain bodies taken out by much less we never saw this one need resurrecting or display much weakness even after taking some hits from Saged up Naruto.

For the 5-second rule, it did say that the cooldown would be longer if he increased the power. How do we know that this wasn't simply him using a massive Push that kept pushing for a few seconds? If Naruto's rasenshuriken was as strong as the beams of hatred kyubii was launching then we mighta seen some outline from the Shinra tensei.

What I really don't get is how youre confused over the kyubii's pure chakra beams. It's perfectly normal for him to make a giant ball of it then shoot that but making to a beam form it is too much a stretch?

I can guess a solely anime viewer would enjoy the ep more than a manga loving twat like myself.