Naruto Shippuuden Episode 167

[chambers]

This fight was just insane, i read the manga and i dont remeber it being so OTT.... i mean what the fuck, the power levels of the people involved in this fight are unreal..... why exactley does pain even fucking WANT the tailed beasts if he can basically defeat the current hokage, a legendary sannin, a possible future hokage in kakashi, elude capture by an ENTIRE village's worth of security and lay waste to said village with only a moments notice... what exactley is the point in gaining MORE power then being basically undefeatable....even the nine tails seems evenley matched against one pain, imagine if there were all 6 of them up at one time could the nine tails compete with that? could naruto have competed with that...


Itachi, sasuke, madara, other hokage, other villages (given that its been said a couple times that the leaf is the strongest, or close to it) how could they possibly hope to compete with pain? even comparing the other akatsuki members there worth on the battle field is just pathetic compared to the destruction pain can give out and id likley say pain could fight and kill every single one of the dead akatsuki members.

[Artris]

This fight was just insane, i read the manga and i dont remeber it being so OTT.... i mean what the fuck, the power levels of the people involved in this fight are unreal..... why exactley does pain even fucking WANT the tailed beasts if he can basically defeat the current hokage, a legendary sannin, a possible future hokage in kakashi, elude capture by an ENTIRE village's worth of security and lay waste to said village with only a moments notice... what exactley is the point in gaining MORE power then being basically undefeatable....even the nine tails seems evenley matched against one pain, imagine if there were all 6 of them up at one time could the nine tails compete with that? could naruto have competed with that...


Itachi, sasuke, madara, other hokage, other villages (given that its been said a couple times that the leaf is the strongest, or close to it) how could they possibly hope to compete with pain? even comparing the other akatsuki members there worth on the battle field is just pathetic compared to the destruction pain can give out and id likley say pain could fight and kill every single one of the dead akatsuki members.

Pain is trying to end war (or at least change the Pattern): unlike a few of the others in his organization, I am guessing that he is NOT immortal. I would even go so far as to guess that he is dying. Since he will not be around for ever it is logical to create some sort of weapon out of mythical, immortal, beasts since such a weapon WOULD be around forever. Said weapon could continue the cycle of destruction and peace even after pain passes away. Really such an impact, if possible, is far more amazing than any lasting power of an individual or even immortality. To be able to constantly control the future without even being present or active IN the future, that is THE legacy of all time.

The relationship between Pain and Madara actually may very well follow the lines of Master and Apprentice right out of Starwars. Perhaps even so far as that Madara may have saved Pain in the past (sort of a Darth Vader origins story here). I think Pain is clearly more powerful than Madara but at the same time more vulnerable to manipulations by Madara.

Nobody commented on my theory regarding the metal polls Pain seems to have an endless supply of. I am hurt.