Naruto Shippuuden Episode 212

[DarthEnderX]

One thing that's bothering me is, why does Shisui's Sharingan have a unique power when it's not even a Mangekyou Sharingan.

We know Shisui probably didn't have an MS because he would have had to kill Itachi to get it. And while Danzou COULD have made it into an MS after he obtained it(since Kakashi was also able to), we know Shisui's eye had this power while it was still alive because that Hidden Mist ninja said he fought Shusui and he had that power then.

Didn't Sasuke prove that's not enough? He broke out of Itachi's MS without having one himself.

There's a pretty huge difference between Itachi's MS power of "really good Genjutsu" and Kakashi's MS power of "fucking black hole generator!"

I think Kakashi may actually have the most deadly MS power.

I mean, sure, when he was first using it on Diedara, he was very slow and clumsy with it. But since then, we've seen him wink nail projectiles and missiles right out of existence in mid-flight.

We also assume Madara, who appears to be able to travel through space and time couldn't go retrieve him.

You're assuming Kakashi's MS actually GOES someplace. For all we know, it's just destroying what it sucks in.


Realistically, a fight between Sasuke and Kakashi should go:

Sasuke: "I use Amaterasu to set you on fire and now you'll burn to death and there's nothing you can do about it."

Kakashi: "Well, while I'm burning to death, I just crushed your heart into a quantum singularity."

*both die*

[lelouch]

I think Kakashi may actually have the most deadly MS power.

I'm pretty sure Madara has the same ability, except he is able to use it much better.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm pretty sure Madara has the same ability, except he is able to use it much better.

Sorta. It seems he isn't able to use his eye on anyone he's not touching.

They're probably very similar but with a few key differences. Kinda of like how Sasuke can move his Amaterasu flames around while Itachi never could.

[lelouch]

Sorta. It seems he isn't able to use his eye on anyone he's not touching.

I believe when Danzo was about to behead Sasuke earlier in the fight, Madara was about to teleport the sword away before realizing Sasuke was fine. I don't think he needs to be touching anything.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm pretty sure Madara has the same ability, except he is able to use it much better.

The perks of upgraded hardware it seems.

Can anyone tell us if Kakashi really did take ages to sever Deidara's arm, or whether it was just drawn out in the anime?

[DarthEnderX]

The perks of upgraded hardware it seems.

Even if the only thing the EMS does is allow you to use MS powers without going blind, it'd still be the most important upgrade ever.

I really don't want Kakashi's Sharingan to go blind. Maybe he can get Shisui's eye back from Madara.

Or maybe Danzou still has the other one.

Can anyone tell us if Kakashi really did take ages to sever Deidara's arm, or whether it was just drawn out in the anime?

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...6/page004.html

Takes about 5 pages. So, yeah, pretty long.

It actually looks ALOT like Danzou's death Jutsu now that I look at it again. Just smaller.

[Buffalobiian]

Even if the only thing the EMS does is allow you to use MS powers without going blind, it'd still be the most important upgrade ever.

I really don't want Kakashi's Sharingan to go blind. Maybe he can get Shisui's eye back from Madara.

Or maybe Danzou still has the other one.

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...6/page004.html

Takes about 5 pages. So, yeah, pretty long.

It actually looks ALOT like Danzou's death Jutsu now that I look at it again. Just smaller.

Danzou's was ink(?). The "juice" in those pages was Deidara's blood.

It took a little while, yeah, but no where near like.... 3 episodes and a marathon.

edit:

I believe when Danzo was about to behead Sasuke earlier in the fight, Madara was about to teleport the sword away before realizing Sasuke was fine. I don't think he needs to be touching anything.

Where was this?

[DarthEnderX]

Where was this?

He's talking about when Danzou had the cursed seal on Sasuke that paralyzed him and was about to kill him with his own sword. As he was swinging, Madara started to do his teleport swirl, but then when Sasuke broke out with Susano'O, Madara cancelled whatever he was going to do.

I don't think you can assume he was going to teleport away the sword though. There's no way of knowing WHAT he was going to do.

And the evidence that he need to touch them is much more substantial. Being A. He always touches someone before sucking them in but most importantly B. He touches Danzou's Abarame guard before sucking him in even though he KNEW touching the guy was going to cost him at least his arm. If he could use his power at range, there's no reason he would have touched the guy.

And again in this episode, instead of just teleporting Danzou away, he jumps all the way down, puts his hand on him, THEN teleports him away.

[Kraco]

If he could use his power at range, there's no reason he would have touched the guy.

Actually there is a tactical reason: To make everybody believe he needs to touch the target. That could easily be the decisive factor between victory and defeat in an equal fight against an opponent under the false premise. However, right now I'd rather believe he needs to touch, even if we are talking about the most guileful person in the Naruto universe.

[lelouch]

I don't think you can assume he was going to teleport away the sword though. There's no way of knowing WHAT he was going to do.

Considering the teleport swirls appeared and after Sasuke summoned Susano'o, Madara says "I guess he doesn't need my help after all", I think it is safe to assume he was going to use teleport in one manner or another to help Sasuke.

And the evidence that he need to touch them is much more substantial. Being A. He always touches someone before sucking them in

Episode 205, 2:25, he does not touch Karin to teleport her.