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    Awesome user with default custom title Uchiha Barles's Avatar
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    This debate is damned interesting xD. If I may, I'd like to step back see opinions on the matter from a different angle.

    Often times, when groups are created, the individuals must give up some of their "rights" in order to partake in the benefits of being part of said group. Extrapolating this idea to societies that are generally comprised of several subgroups, I think its fair to say that there exist subgroups who find their rights restricted in order to partake in the benefits of being members of said society. At what point do the restrictions on individual and subgroup rights outweigh the benefits of being members of larger groups and societies?
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    Often times, when groups are created, the individuals must give up some of their "rights" in order to partake in the benefits of being part of said group.
    And this "systematic giving up of rights" was decided by a few old men hundreds of years ago, and the rest of American society is pretty much born into this (and the following bit of this sentence is an understatement) highly out-dated social contract.

    Flip to CSPAN and you can see the circus of people struggling to interpret these documents to fit their own means and ends for whatever reason, by using emotional rhetoric and accusations that may or may not have to do with the issue they are fighting for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles View Post
    Extrapolating this idea to societies that are generally comprised of several subgroups, I think its fair to say that there exist subgroups who find their rights restricted in order to partake in the benefits of being members of said society.
    Fair argument, but I find it to be a bit shaky. I feel that though the perceived benefits may outweigh the costs, it's a matter of pure perception if one of the parties doesn't consent. (Example: I am benefitting so much because there is a slave here to pick cotton for me! Never mind the costs, I am making such a profit!)
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