Hebephilia

[Buffalobiian]

I agree. Is this what gotwoot has become or what these forums are for. The validation of perversions involving minors?

Suggestions on the grounds that this forum may be shut down due to possible violations of US laws is something worth considering. Your idea, I wouldn't. These forums are for discussing. It ranges from anime, manga and how police exercise their rights to what I eat everyday and why Assertn has so many posts. I believe Bud has already pointed out that he may lock this thread depending on how far towards the line this thread travels. but if you're complaining because you don't want to read this - don't read this.

@KE: Let's revisit.

I don't consider people having sex with animals mentally in order. Like homophiles are "considered" normal human beings yet differ in parts of the brain with others, I believe this case to be the same. It's a mental condition. Whether it's accepted by society or not is a different story.

Wait.. so you go and define "mental disorder" by yourself rather than following medical definitions?

Well, can you explain to me why pedophilia is, and hebe- and ephebophilia aren't mental disorders? Better yet, can those medical scientist?

Hebephilia being a disorder is an ongoing debate (says wiki) suggesting the definitions of chronophilia's mental disorders are probably decided by ethics and morals. There goes your medical definition.

That's the whole package. As for my reply:

[quote=KE]

I don't consider people having sex with animals mentally in order. Like homophiles are "considered" normal human beings yet differ in parts of the brain with others, I believe this case to be the same. It's a mental condition.

- You said you believe hebephilia to be the same case as "homophiles" (homosexuals?) in that their brain structure is different. You have not backed this up with a source. As such, coming to the conclusion that it's a mental condition in such a manner is only valid for your personal definition of a mental condition and not necessarily applicable for others who "believe" differently. If you had facts to support this, that would be another manner.

Hebephilia being a disorder is an ongoing debate (says wiki) suggesting the definitions of chronophilia's mental disorders are probably decided by ethics and morals. There goes your medical definition.

-Firstly, you just said that Hebephilia being a disorder is an ongoing debate, which contradicts your statement before that "It is a mental disorder."

-Next, you stated that the definitions of mental disorders are probably decided by ethics and morals. But, you stated earlier: "It's a mental condition. Whether it's accepted by society or not is a different story.".

Putting the two pieces together, you have contradicted yourself by saying that the definitions of a medical disorder are influenced and decided by ethics and morals, but then stated that Hebephilia is a mental condition whether or not it's accepted by society. The only way you have not contradicted yourself is if you also believe that ethics and morals are not dependant upon society..

All in all, it boils down to you believing Hebephilia being a mental condition because you think it is.

Well, can you explain to me why pedophilia is, and hebe- and ephebophilia aren't mental disorders? Better yet, can those medical scientist?

Kraco did that quite well.

If me labeling something a mental illness is the same as brainwashing someone to believe it to be, then the ones mentally ill were Hitler and his followers (I'm sorry if I'm being extravagant).

@Fireheart: couldn't have said it better.

No matter the situation, it'll never benefit the underaged.

What does benefiting your partner have anything to do with sexual preference?

What's wrong is wrong for a reason. Get with it or follow consequences.

Galileo was "wrong" about the Earth orbiting the sun. I suppose he had a mental disorder too.

LOL... really?

What are you trying to say here? That Galileo was wrong? Or not?

Once again I must remind everyone that Hebiphilia is about preference. No one's talking about bringing it back. No one's talking about legalising it. No one's saying that their neighbour should adopt it (unlike the other camp).

It's about Shinta having a 20 year old wife but thinking "boy wouldn't it be nice if she was 12 again".

Which is wrong.

See above regarding you basing right and wrong on your own personal (and at times groundless) beliefs.

@Xan: I have no idea what you're talking about now.

Likewise

I'm assuming you are referring to Xan and not myself.