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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Rapists and murderers should be killed off though.
    It's hard to prove a murder, though. So many people have hastily gotten the death penalty. I'm not sure I believe the amount of innocents (even 1 innocent) that would be killed off is worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire View Post
    It's hard to prove a murder, though. So many people have hastily gotten the death penalty. I'm not sure I believe the amount of innocents (even 1 innocent) that would be killed off is worth it.
    Most murders occur between people who know each other, and most often with witnesses. Learned this in criminology class. It's not that hard to prove, the question is what kind of punishment should someone receive for something done in the heat of the moment and without thinking. What are the chances it will happen again, because that's one of the primary reasons for imprisonment, besides retribution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Most murders occur between people who know each other, and most often with witnesses. Learned this in criminology class. It's not that hard to prove, the question is what kind of punishment should someone receive for something done in the heat of the moment and without thinking. What are the chances it will happen again, because that's one of the primary reasons for imprisonment, besides retribution.
    I agree with this post. I do think that capital punishment as a whole should be abolished in the US, as I also think that even if 1% of the judgments are wrong, it is too high a price to pay. I think another huge problem with our prison system is that a lot of prisoners have mental problems. In fact, it extends to outside prisons (like my former neighborhood). I think a combination of treatment and retribution would be the ideal system, and for those that really cannot function in society, permanent separation from society would be appropriate.

    Yea, heat of the moment crimes are tricky. If you were to kill someone that just killed your parents (or loved one), I don't necessarily think you should be executed for that. I am not for violent retribution or Sharia or anything, but it is understandable.

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    In somewhat related news, apparently California is going to run out of room in all its prisons by next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
    In somewhat related news, apparently California is going to run out of room in all its prisons by next year.
    California will run out of money well before that. And that's not even factoring in a potential big earthquake that devastates the area and costs billions in damage. Enjoy the sunny weather while you can.


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    There are around 2 million people in prison within the United states that are on record ( not counting military detention centers and so on) It cost about 23,000 dollars per year per prisoner, according to a 2001 report and that doesn't include whatever health care they are given, maintenance, material, food and all those knick-knacks.

    The money has to come from somewhere. The system isn't perfect but it does cost to maintain it. Times are tough.

    http://www.quora.com/How-much-money-...-cost-per-year

    http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/census...aprisonpop.htm
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