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[XanBcoo]

Naw, corporate america at the very least prefers the image of a clean shaven man over that of a mustached and bearded man. There are many positions where you are required to keep a clean shaven and neat appearance.

Cool. That's not at all what's being discussed. And even then, there is a clear choice (with little repercussion) being made to enter that position or not. There is no stigma against not taking a position where that is required.

There's definitely pressure social pressure for men to shave from the workplace in addition to whatever sexual pressure there is from women who do not like facial hair.

Roughly equal amounts of women prefer men shaven to unshaven. Vastly fewer men prefer women unshaven to shaven, to the point where body hair on women is stigmatized. This is what I meant. There's no choice until both are acceptable options.

I'm not saying whether it should be or not, but that's the reality of the situation.

[Kraco]

Roughly equal amounts of women prefer men shaven to unshaven. Vastly fewer men prefer women unshaven to shaven, to the point where body hair on women is stigmatized. This is what I meant. There's no choice until both are acceptable options.

Huh? Both are acceptable already if there are men in significant numbers not minding or preferring their woman's appendages natural. Or are you arguing about statistics here? You need 50-50 for it to be okay, or something? Is that even realistic all things considered, since hairless legs or a hairless face aren't everything men or women look for in their partners, so you wouldn't get 50% acceptance anyway, due to all the other filters.

[XanBcoo]

Huh? Both are acceptable already if there are men in significant numbers not minding or preferring their woman's appendages natural.

No, they are not. Like I said, I don't know what it's like in other countries but body hair on women, even arm hair, is heavily stigmatizing. And even when it is accepted, it's treated as a fetish. A subversion. The pressure comes from both men and other women.

No one's asking for exact percentages.

And I'm being typically American and basing this on US culture. I realize that elsewhere it might not be the same, which is a good thing.