In the news today

[Ryllharu]

So wait, you're complaining that people (the "PC crowd" in your words) are wrong for calling other people racist when they're trying to blame this on Muslims? On the sole basis that there are Muslims within Russia, you're saying that makes it okay to be racist and blame it on Muslims.

Got it.

:shakes head:

[Animeniax]

So wait, you're complaining that people (the "PC crowd" in your words) are wrong for calling other people racist when they're trying to blame this on Muslims? On the sole basis that there are Muslims within Russia, you're saying that makes it okay to be racist and blame it on Muslims.

Got it.

:shakes head:

Wow you just can't admit defeat can you. There are definite ties between the bombers and Islamic fundamentalism, and disregarding these ties because "they're Russian, not Middle Easterners" is foolish because there are Islamic radicals in Russia, namely Chechnya, where these guys are from. Further research has shown and will elaborate on the connection. I'm surprised you haven't learned this from Fox News already.

:bitch slaps Ryll on face:

[Carnage]

I'm surprised you haven't learned this from Fox News already.

Well now we know you're trolling.

[Animeniax]

Well now we know you're trolling.

Nah, I added that to rub it in because he refuses to concede the likely truth. I don't watch Fox news but I imagine they've thoroughly explored the Islamic connection to the bombing. I have to watch the Daily Show/Colbert to find out what Fox says about stuff and I'm behind on my DVR recordings.

I dont have the news link in english but they are starting to say that he wasnt the best muslim out there. Dzhojar would get wasted 3 days a week in parties, never pray and act like almost any other teen his age alleges some guy called Zach Bettencourt wich he meet at the college. His college ID puts him several times in the campus after the bombings and the night before the persecution he went to a party.

Also some reports say that the suspect they have under custody had suffered damge in his throat and that he can barely speak.

Dunno dont sound like a fundamentalist to me. Also what the hell was that about a drill (about bombs) taking place at the same time of the bombing?

The younger brother may not have been as committed to the cause, but older brother definitely was. He got his gf to convert to Islam before marrying her, and prayed 5 times a day in the months leading up to the attack. And we know how often an older brother has recruited his kid brother to do some crazy shit.

[Ryllharu]

Wow you just can't admit defeat can you. There are definite ties between the bombers and Islamic fundamentalism, and disregarding these ties because "they're Russian, not Middle Easterners" is foolish because there are Islamic radicals in Russia, namely Chechnya, where these guys are from. Further research has shown and will elaborate on the connection. I'm surprised you haven't learned this from Fox News already.

You didn't mention their ties to Islamic fundamentalism (which indeed there is ample evidence to support, like the elder brother's youtube channel). Not ONCE in this thread until now.

Your retort to the "PC crowd" was that Because Muslims Exist in Russia, it is okay to place the blame on the fact that they were Muslims. That's straight-up bullshit.

But the brother was very much into boxing, and had to quit after he was found beating someone outside of the ring. His violent tendencies only continued from there. It's pretty easy to say the blame isn't entirely on any radical islamic tendencies.

Additional fun fact, the leadership of the militant fundamentalist Islamic force in Chechnya has said that these two are not connected to them at all, has never had contact with them, and that their organization's fight is with Russia, not the US. Pretty much a formal denouncement of the actions by these two if there ever was one.

[Animeniax]

You didn't mention their ties to Islamic fundamentalism (which indeed there is ample evidence to support, like the elder brother's youtube channel). Not ONCE in this thread until now.

Your retort to the "PC crowd" was that Because Muslims Exist in Russia, it is okay to place the blame on the fact that they were Muslims. That's straight-up bullshit.

But the brother was very much into boxing, and had to quit after he was found beating someone outside of the ring. His violent tendencies only continued from there. It's pretty easy to say the blame isn't entirely on any radical islamic tendencies.

Additional fun fact, the leadership of the militant fundamentalist Islamic force in Chechnya has said that these two are not connected to them at all, has never had contact with them, and that their organization's fight is with Russia, not the US. Pretty much a formal denouncement of the actions by these two if there ever was one.

Yeah, except for in my second post on the subject: http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread...l=1#post528567 where I stated, "there is a definite connection between the brothers' actions and Chechen Muslim radicalism."

[Ryllharu]

Yeah, except for in my second post on the subject: http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread...l=1#post528567 where I stated, "there is a definite connection between the brothers' actions and Chechen Muslim radicalism."

Your own words (emphasis mine): "If CNN is to be believed (questionable at best, admittedly)..."

Come on, we both know better than to believe the network famous for how often they fail, and given the statement I make above about the Chechen Radical Muslims...still bullshit. This is the same network that reported the Lord and Taylor camera captured an image of a "dark male" [LIE] and that an arrest had been made [LIE].

They have no connection to the Chechen insurgency.

[Animeniax]

Your own words (emphasis mine): "If CNN is to be believed (questionable at best, admittedly)..."

Come on, we both know better than to believe the network famous for how often they fail, and given the statement I make above about the Chechen Radical Muslims...still bullshit. This is the same network that reported the Lord and Taylor camera captured an image of a "dark male" [LIE] and that an arrest had been made [LIE].

They have no connection to the Chechen insurgency.

I was playing into the Daily Show lambasting of CNN, but other outlets like HuffPo and the Daily Mail (UK) have also confirmed the link between the brothers and Chechen muslim radicalism. Maybe if you tried other sources for news besides Fox, you'd see that real journalism tries to support its claims with fact, instead of just yelling.

The Chechen insurgency is/was originally more about nationalism, but more recently it's been about Islamic fundamentalism. So the brothers' terrorist attack most certainly has ties to Chechen Islamic radicalism.

[Ryllharu]

I was playing into the Daily Show lambasting of CNN, but other outlets like HuffPo and the Daily Mail (UK) have also confirmed the link between the brothers and Chechen muslim radicalism. Maybe if you tried other sources for news besides Fox, you'd see that real journalism tries to support its claims with fact, instead of just yelling.

The Chechen insurgency is/was originally more about nationalism, but more recently it's been about Islamic fundamentalism. So the brothers' terrorist attack most certainly has ties to Chechen Islamic radicalism.

Oh...but too bad you're full of shit. The DailyFail...really? They're worse than FoxNews, by an order of magnitude. It's a fucking tabloid. Rupert Murdock's UK tabloid was more respected that the DailyMail, and News of the World got canceled due to a scandal involving hacking a dead girl's voicemail. Look at their website right now. Top stories: Kim Kardashian's wardrobe today! and she hosted a CrAzY party. Tragedy of 'healthy' Italian student, 23, who died hours after getting a Tattoo. Ooo, the Femail section sidebar, which is all gossip rag shit. You just proved you have no idea what's going on in the world. HuffPo isn't a whole lot better, just less celebrity gossip. Note I said less, not none, because they have a whole topic on the Kardashians, updated daily! O.M.G. the latest news I'm so concerned about!!!


Like I've been saying: Caucasus Emirate, considered terrorists by both Russia, the US, and the UN, denies involvement with the Boston attack and any and all connection with the Tsarnaevs brothers. [Second source link.] Doesn't completely absolve them, but better than random speculation by a conservative gossip rag and and a liberal blog that just copies whatever CNN or AP articles are out there.