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    It's kind of tricky, really. After crossing over to the new world, our expectations for the capabilities of new enemies is so high, that for Nami to be able to solo one would just seem insulting, and if it's a bunch of no-name thugs, well, anybody from the crew can take them out instantly, but nobody really thinks much of that (Nami did knock that dragon out of the sky with a thunder cloud, for example, but who cares?) Even the new fishmen pirates were all well-below the skill level of any of the strawhats, but only became a threat due to performance-enhancing drugs.

    Back in Water 7, someone told Usopp that, even if he can't fight, he can find other ways to contribute that nobody else can. I'm okay with that.

    Edit: Also, sure, everyone has trained hard the past two years. But unless you can say that Nami and Usopp are stronger now than Luffy was two years ago, then it's still not enough for them to reliably solo new world enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
    It's kind of tricky, really. After crossing over to the new world, our expectations for the capabilities of new enemies is so high, that for Nami to be able to solo one would just seem insulting
    Not to me it doesn't. The whole point of them spending 2 years gaining abilities nobody has ever seen before. If they COULDN'T take on the 7th or 8th most powerful member of any given group, I'd feel as though they'd wasted two years of their life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
    Edit: Also, sure, everyone has trained hard the past two years. But unless you can say that Nami and Usopp are stronger now than Luffy was two years ago, then it's still not enough for them to reliably solo new world enemies.
    That implies that everyone on everyone ELSES crew in the New World is ALSO stronger than Luffy was two years ago, and that's simply not the case. The Whitebeard War was jam packed full of pirates that weren't as strong as Luffy that all came from the New World.

    I don't see why the power gap between the leader of any other group and their 7th-8th most powerful members would be any smaller than the power gap within the Strawhats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    I don't see why the power gap between the leader of any other group and their 7th-8th most powerful members would be any smaller than the power gap within the Strawhats.
    No, it's likely much, much bigger. I reckon Straw hats is an exceedingly strange crew as far as pirates go. They have absolutely no cannon fodder members like all the other gangs. In fact, they have subordinates who ought to be captains themselves, like we already heard way back during the Enies Lobby arc. I imagine in most crews the captain is a lot more powerful than the rest. Then there's a couple of lieutenants, but that's almost it as far as real fighters are considered. Straw hats have a super class captain, a vice-captain (if you can call Zoro that as the second oldest member) who's also a real monster and easily captain class even in the New world. Sanji probably isn't that far behind. The rest could serve in the role of a lieutenant no problem. This is talking about fighting capability, naturally, because considering more diverse skills they are peerless.

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