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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    On the other hand, however: When she blushed while Araba was devouring the snake, I really felt like she has lost her humanity. I will add, before someone accusses me of something again, that I'm fine with Kumoko turning into an evil overlord. But it needs to be acknowledged. Whether she is full-on evil by now I can't tell, but when you admire a gruesome killing, you're certainly further gone from being human.
    Why do you equate being and not being human to being evil or not? Not saying you're right or wrong on your appreciation of Kumoko's "alignment", but the being human shouldn't be part of the dichotomy of good vs evil.

    Assuming that she is the humanoid spider demonlord, I wonder how attacking human kingdoms fits into her saving the world-plan.
    I would suspect there's some correlation or simply just war between kingdoms. I don't recall if it was mention if there was an invasion or not and who was invading who. But I think seeing all the humanoids so far on the "demon" side should make us question what is human and what is isn't, and if it's simply an arbitrary descriptor of difference in races.

    Also only-in-anime: the dragon girl just like that gives up her freedom for her friend to be able to summon her. ooooookay. This is a typical "good for when we are friends, but bad for when we're no longer friends"-idea, and relationships ARE changing over one's lifetime. I mean, I don't expect this anime to portray it that realistically, so it probably won't become a big problem, but I had to facepalm hard when she shackled herself on a whim like that.
    By this point in time they're pretty much brother and sister, no ifs or buts about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Here's a thought.

    Our witness didn't see Julius die, and there was no body.

    What if Julius didn't die? What if he lost the Hero skill because he switched sides? He did want humans and demons to live in peace. Maybe he was recruited instead of killed.
    Honestly, I don't see it... but I'm open to anything. With the intrusion of Administrators anything can happen I guess, I just don't see the motivation here particularly when a powerful enemy pretty much destroyed everyone but the one with the Phoenix Down.

    All those things aside, I found it funny when she was discussing with her other minds about saving the world that one mentioned delicious food, when all she's been eating has been raw monster guts LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
    With the intrusion of Administrators anything can happen I guess, I just don't see the motivation here particularly when a powerful enemy pretty much destroyed everyone but the one with the Phoenix Down.
    Well, if the Demon Lord's actions were actually motivated by saving the world from it's catastrophe, and they actually bothered to explain that to him, I could see him switching sides in order to save the world if they could manage to convince him they were telling the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
    Why do you equate being and not being human to being evil or not? Not saying you're right or wrong on your appreciation of Kumoko's "alignment", but the being human shouldn't be part of the dichotomy of good vs evil.

    I didn't claim that, in the context of Kumoko admiring the devouring of the snake, Kumoko was "evil". I said she looked like she had truly lost her humanity. A lack of humanity isn't necessarily evil.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I didn't claim that, in the context of Kumoko admiring the devouring of the snake, Kumoko was "evil". I said she looked like she had truly lost her humanity. A lack of humanity isn't necessarily evil.
    Yeah, that doesn't make her evil and you're contradicting yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
    Yeah, that doesn't make her evil and you're contradicting yourself.

    It makes her inhuman in that scene and I'm not contradicting.

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    It makes her inhuman in that scene and I'm not contradicting.
    Again, doesn't make her "evil", then you go on to say "A lack of humanity isn't necessarily evil."

    So yeah, a contradiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
    Again, doesn't make her "evil", then you go on to say "A lack of humanity isn't necessarily evil."

    So yeah, a contradiction.
    ?
    wat

    No, lacking humanity doesn't equal being evil, and I never said that admiring the devouring of the snake made her appear evil. Where's the contradiction?

    "She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    ?
    wat

    No, lacking humanity doesn't equal being evil, and I never said that admiring the devouring of the snake made her appear evil. Where's the contradiction?
    Are you sure?

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I didn't claim that, in the context of Kumoko admiring the devouring of the snake, Kumoko was "evil". I said she looked like she had truly lost her humanity. A lack of humanity isn't necessarily evil.
    Or maybe I misunderstood your first statement, which is fine then.

    Regardless in your previous statement you did indeed made an allusion that she was evil, maybe not full-on evil, but evil nonetheless because she lost her humanity.

    But if you recognize that lack of humanity isn't an indictment of being evil, that's fine... that's the point I wanted to get across regardless.
    Last edited by Munsu; Mon, 03-22-2021 at 12:56 PM.

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