Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
Human trafficking and "debt collection" are 2 rackets the yakuza are literally involved in. In modern japan.

Anime that portray Japan as a pristine place where things like that never happen are actually the ones being unrealistic.
But I haven't said that these thing don't happen? When I thought about what Mfauli was saying my issue is again a child who recently became an orphan and the government doesn't do anything to provide any kind of support, put the kid in an orphanage or foster home. These crime existing and Yakuza doing these things do not contradict my point and I hope you're able to see this.

The way it's been depicted in the anime so far isn't realistic to me.
1. Guardian dies while in debt (believable)
2. Government doesn't do anything to put an orphan in an orphanage or foster home (hard to believe)
3. Child doesn't even go to school (according to David75) despite elementary school being compulsory and this doesn't trigger anything in any system (hard to believe)
4. Yakuza tells the child they have to shoulder the debt (believable)
5. Leaves the kid to do whatever he wants (hard to believe/maybe, I don't know)

So the things that don't make sense imo is point 2, 3 and 5.
It'd make sense if
1. Denji was kidnapped by the Yakuza to shoulder the debt and work it off (previous point 5 counters this)
2. His parents were illegal immigrants and therefor they and him are not on any records (No way that happen in an anime)
3. Denji ran away from the orphanage/foster home (Does happen, but no one seems to even hint at that or his history so far)

Again please note that I'm not saying that the type of crime you explained does not exist, they do and you'd be silly to think these things don't happen. But you might think I'm naive for actually believing in the government would do something to actually protect a child that just became an orphan. I find it hard that they just threw his file in the trash and called it a day, in modern society there should still be records of him.

So I hope this makes it clear my issue isn't the crimes, it's that the government didn't do anything when he became an orphan and that to me that's hard to believe.

Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
There was that line that others in the organisation would like to shut down the experimental unit, so likely most aren't willing to go as far as Makima. There's still a difference between using weapons and being a weapon. In our reality, for example, human soldiers being equipped with weapons, even remote controlled, versus an autonomous system independently going out and killing people, without relying on any human judgement beyond the initial programming. It's probably worse in this series' world because it would be like relying on the very enemies. The line might have been blurred, yes, but I get a feeling Makima is trying to blur it much more than anyone before her.
This does makes sense and the comparison as well but it's hard to see the difference since it's still blurred from the start. If contracted devils exists why can't they just do a contract with a fiend of half devil? I don't know if she's trying to blur it even more, I don't really see what she would win from it or what the end game of that would be. In the end I think she just want stronger pieces she can move around or just want ways to empower themselves even more since contracted devils are bound to have limits. But I'd be happy to be wrong and see her have a grander plan in motion.